How do we Feel Abou...
 
Notifications
Clear all

How do we Feel About Addons in Classic?

68 Posts
44 Users
0 Reactions
20.3 K Views
 jym
(@jym)
Posts: 4
New Member
 

At the end of the day you have to decide for yourself what kind of experience you want to have.

I think its pretty much sums it up! I'm really not a fan of the base auction house UI so I will definitely use an addon that automates that stuff me.

 
Posted : 16/03/2019 12:20 pm
(@abannon)
Posts: 29
Eminent Member
 

Blizzard themselves haven't even figured out yet how they're going to handle addons in classic so basicly nobody knows yet.
Of course there's going to be addons since they were there during Vanilla but just undecided on which API to use.

 
Posted : 22/03/2019 11:22 am
(@gensei)
Posts: 398
Reputable Member
 

My question is, will old addons work on classic?

This is interesting and I'm inclined to say no. Mostly because they aren't just putting the same classic client back up but have basically had to reconstruct it, largely with modern architecture and guts. I'm sure there will be at least some incompatibility, but I feel like none of them will work.

Additionally on the subject of already existing addons being used, I think it'd be easier to just adapt addons for BfA to the Classic client than to modify old vanilla addons .lua stuff to work on the new Classic client.

 
Posted : 22/03/2019 11:30 am
(@henhouse)
Posts: 78
Trusted Member
 

My question is, will old addons work on classic?

This is interesting and I'm inclined to say no. Mostly because they aren't just putting the same classic client back up but have basically had to reconstruct it, largely with modern architecture and guts. I'm sure there will be at least some incompatibility, but I feel like none of them will work.

Additionally on the subject of already existing addons being used, I think it'd be easier to just adapt addons for BfA to the Classic client than to modify old vanilla addons .lua stuff to work on the new Classic client.

Classic is based on the Legion-era engine. It will most definitely have all the updated WoW APIs from that era, which means the archaic and ancient vanilla ones won't work or be supported anymore. By that case, pretty much no 1.12 addons will work anymore. They'll have to be remade, or Legion ones ported. This is good and bad, I suppose. Good because if any of you have ever tried to write Lua addons for WoW coming from TBC/WotLK+ you will understand how utterly horrible the 1.12 system is compared to the newer ones, and also because it will result in significantly better addons being written now, both for usability sake, and performance. Bad because, well, it may spawn significantly 'better; addons which abuse the spirit of vanilla... this may be what Blizzard is talking about when they say they may restrict some.

On an interesting note: a few people have mentioned using Questie on private servers and Nostalrius--fun fact though--that addon was invented in 2015, 9 years after retail vanilla had closed its doors. The quest helper addons that existed before that were extremely lackluster. The best I had was one that added comments from WoWHead into the quest dialogue in-game, no map markings or hover-over tooltip information. Questie literally took the data from private server databases (which are public) and used the spawn info, quest info, etc. to basically populate the addon and spawn locations. Because of this, even if Questie worked on the 1.13 classic WoW coming soon, the data wouldn't be accurate since most private servers replicated the data as best they could, and not from accurate retail data.

 
Posted : 22/03/2019 12:18 pm
(@xazrael)
Posts: 27
Eminent Member
 

In my opinion, allow all addons, besides autonomous ones. So, no auto grouping for quests, no 1 button auto rotations, no auto movement (might just be bots).
I see nothing wrong with raid timers/quest helpers/map addons/bags/bars/etc

 
Posted : 22/03/2019 3:11 pm
(@cletus)
Posts: 196
Estimable Member
 

All I use (and hope to be using in Classic) is UI and action bar addons. Hopefully those will carry on because I hate blizzard bars and having my portrait way the hell up in the top left of my screen.

 
Posted : 23/03/2019 12:36 am
(@sequoioideae)
Posts: 32
Eminent Member
 

Having played on Nostalrius and other pservers in recent times, you can easily get bar mods, questhelpers, boss addons, etc. I'm hoping Blizzard cracks down on the excessive addons via the API, but allow better bar and UI customisation. Having Vanilla but with more modern bars/ui elements will be amazing.

Todays Addons are a shadow of their former self. Healbot got its name for a good reason, back in vanilla it was a single click do everything kind of thing. It automatically selected the right players, healed/buffed them. Healing back than was literally just walking and hitting a single button

Personally, I have never been fond of addons, in any kind of game. I think games should be enjoyed as they are—an even playing field for everyone taking part.

If a game has to be modded to be enjoyed, I don't think that is a good game.

World of Warcraft, at least Vanilla, did not need addons to be enjoyed.
This is just plain wrong. They even added alot what they learned from addons in the vanilla client.
Generally I'm ok with add-ons providing they're not too pervasive. Basic on screen prompts and hints for those that may need it.

However, things like Weakauras will be too much for WoW Classic, in my opinion.
Again, Addons were capable to do much more back in vanilla.

 
Posted : 23/03/2019 10:21 am
(@sentientgypsy)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

Actually I might dabble in an add-on that syncs with barrens.chat, came to me last night in a vision :lol:. In all seriousness although I think a majority of people will take advantage of questing add-ons due to the fact that people don't have as much time as they used with their Wife/Husband and kids' running around so they're going to try to be as optimal/efficient as possible.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:36 pm
(@toastea)
Posts: 98
Trusted Member
 

We’ve had a discussion on addon development and UI customisation before. Some people think we will have classic built on legion software and others think they’ll be using the old stuff (even the hardware). Tbh I think the latter is less likely given the huge technical hurdles involved, which has already been expressed by Blizzard.

Addons will still be LUA based so I’m sure there will be plenty of interest from developers in making legacy versions if necessary. Another interesting point raised was the idea of how much addons will affect the game and the ‘pure’ experience of playing.

For example, quest locations on live are marked with a blue sector on the map, whereas this wasn’t the case originally. If someone developed an addon that provided this functionality would you be inclined to use it or not?

I suppose these are the kind of discussions the classic team are having now in its early stages of development, and fingers crossed we will get some info at blizzcon.

Its an old post, so im sure you got the answers to a lot of your questions :P The original hardware was actually auctioned off as well a very long time ago. There was a time where you could purchase your original vanilla wow realms server blade.

To answer your question about addons, im sure there will be legacy versions of retail wow addons and on top of this updated versions of classic addons used on private servers such as questie etc.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:40 pm
(@henhouse)
Posts: 78
Trusted Member
 

The original hardware was actually auctioned off as well a very long time ago. There was a time where you could purchase your original vanilla wow realms server blade.

I own 2 of the 4 Smolderthorn US server blades! :razz: I only meant to win one... but they were auctioned on ebay and I was trying to absolutely make sure I didn't lose the bidding.... and I ended up with two... But all the money went to a good charity so I didn't mind!

Here's a picture of them out of their boxes:

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 1:50 pm
(@toastea)
Posts: 98
Trusted Member
 

I would be happy to play with no addons at all. but seeing as I want to be competitive and I know my competitors will be using them, I will go balls to the wall.

Back in the day I did not use them until TBC. At that point having an addon that gave me a map of battle grounds or a dungeon made me feel asthough I was cheating and I was scared to use them :P

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 4:02 pm
(@toastea)
Posts: 98
Trusted Member
 

I would be happy to play with no addons at all. but seeing as I want to be competitive and I know my competitors will be using them, I will go balls to the wall.

Back in the day I did not use them until TBC. At that point having an addon that gave me a map of battle grounds or a dungeon made me feel asthough I was cheating and I was scared to use them :P

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 4:02 pm
(@sentientgypsy)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

I would be happy to play with no addons at all. but seeing as I want to be competitive and I know my competitors will be using them, I will go balls to the wall.

Back in the day I did not use them until TBC. At that point having an addon that gave me a map of battle grounds or a dungeon made me feel asthough I was cheating and I was scared to use them :P

I think that's that main problem, everyone else is using them and me not using them is intentionally handicapping my self.

 
Posted : 27/03/2019 7:22 pm
(@timberfist)
Posts: 15
Active Member
 

Addons is one of the things I'm most concerned about in Classic. Classic is being built on one of the Legion patches, ie. 7.x.x. I had hoped for genuine 1.12.1 code but that's not going to be the case. I'm hoping that the code will eventually be merged into 8.x.x so we don't have to have two clients. I live in France and like 30% of the country, I have 2Mbit/s download speeds at best! The only reason I keep my WoW client updated is for Classic. If we have to download a new client, I'm looking at a week of lost time while I download it!

Back to the point: The API will not be the same as it was in Classic and will not be the same as the one that's currently in BFA. It's still up in the air but I don't expect any of the vanilla addons you know and love to work for Classic. Same goes for macros. We'll just have to wait and see.

From a philosophical point of view, yes, I'll be using addons. However, I won't be using any addons that seek to make Classic less Classic-like. I'll only be using addons that are in the spirit of those I used back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhKkP8LryYM&feature=youtu.be&t=2495

 
Posted : 07/04/2019 7:14 am
Caspus
(@caspus)
Posts: 180
Estimable Member
 

I love addons, specially ones that change your UI. I love a minimalist clean UI which the default UI won't give me. There are also certain addons I can't live without like Classic Snowfall or Lazypig (I'm lazy /shrug). But there are addons like healbot and some others that will literally play the game for you which I can agree don't belong in the game and hopefully that will be the case.

 
Posted : 07/04/2019 8:16 am
Page 3 / 5
Share: