Killerduki seems to like to antagonize for the sake of it. >.>
Are they not allowed to also play other specs?
Quick check on your Youtube channel.
You played Shadowpriest most of your WoW years, why you title yourself a Protection paladin?
Or are we enslaved to a single specialiazation and cannot present data on different ones because sometimes, we play other things? Really sad argument.
Killerduki seems to like to antagonize for the sake of it. >.>
Are they not allowed to also play other specs?
You are right , they are allowed to also play other specs either.
But seeing they preach and calling/called themselves an "Experts" of some spec , but therefore they never raided or did Main Tank as that spec on a Progression Run (by Progression Run , i mean the Guild who is currently Progressing , unrelated to the Gear group it has) .
Is beyond silly.
What's worse, they are poor with their skills , therefore they claim/preach and point out on the Spec as being poor, ignoring/refusing that it's THEM who lack of knowledge about it and NOT the Spec itself.
See just an example what Holyfrog does =
- Using lots of time Judgement of Wisdom and Seal of Righteousness on 3-5 mobs ,he then goes oom and preaching that paladins have mana issues.
- He is very slow on pulls and therefore he preach that Paladins have aggro issues.
- He pull without Holy Shield pre pull cast on Bosses (then he preach how terrible Paladins are with aggro when Pull happens).
- He uses Holy Shield on 3+ targets all the time ,even when surviving isn't an issue , then boom = oom.
- He again preach how Paladin is so terrible ignoring how terrible is to rely on Holy Shield regarding threat against 3+ targets if surviving isn't an issue ...
The way i work is Sow/JoW on 3+ mobs (jow depend on how long mob survive) , i extremely rare go oom or drink , keeping aggro fine, not spamming abilities when aggro is not an issue to not waste mana worthless and then i am not wasting time of the group at all , ready and go to next group.
Those are 2 different types of worlds.
Regarding Raids , waiting to see him actually begin to Main Tank , then i will let you know how far he lack with his knowledge... As he call himself "Expert" .
How those "Experts" coming today as "Bigger Experts" ?
They learned that Greater Blessings are bugged and do work with RF as increased threat making , bingo , they are best Prot Paladins in the world.
What happens when such bug get fixed?
I'll just go back to my normal rotation when kings gets nerfed personally (doubt it will).
Classic is a lot easier than private so regardless MTing will be easy.
I'm assuming the consensus should really be "Yes, prot paladins can tank. But warrior is ideal". No?
As is the case with these kind of debates, in my opinion Caperfin nails the core issue:
The topic of Viable and Optimal is a highly controversial topic as some people simply don't see the difference or mixed these words up and commonly interject their own misguided philosophy onto it. To put it simply, Optimal is the most efficient and foolproof solution to solve a problem that eliminates as many negative variables as possible and favors a more easy going route. Next, is Viable or commonly referred to as possible, which is often seen as the more challenging path to take but to many feels like a greater personal achievement.
I'll just go back to my normal rotation when kings gets nerfed personally (doubt it will).
Classic is a lot easier than private so regardless MTing will be easy.
It's not Kings only , i aggroed all mobs in low lvl dungeon by buffing 5 minutes blessing of wisdom either , which made me go like WTF .
I know, kings is just the lowest mana cost which is why we mention it the most.
Classic is a lot easier than private so regardless MTing will be easy.
That's what i am trying to tell to those noobs who preach and denigrate Paladins 24/24.
They still are living in Private Servers Dreams even today... Just Dream on and keep Dreaming.
Reality burning them .... Prot Paladins are now part of "Spell Cleave" , what's so special about it, is that such "spell cleave" is beyond min/maxers and pushing Rogues/Warriors DPS or TANKS off from their spots.
The Millenials favor us (Hybrids) more than ever before today.
Just enjoy when BWL release, feel the outcry of Rogues and Warriors who couldn't cope with the "Spell Cleave" .
Reality burning them .... Prot Paladins are now part of "Spell Cleave" , what's so special about it, is that such "spell cleave" is beyond min/maxers and pushing Rogues/Warriors DPS or TANKS off from their spots.
The Millenials favor us (Hybrids) more than ever before today.
Just enjoy when BWL release, feel the outcry of Rogues and Warriors who couldn't cope with the "Spell Cleave" .
What? Okay... SO first of all, good spell cleave teams that are min/maxing, dont run a tank. Secondly, warriors were the kingpin of aoe threat when demo was broken. So the good spell cleave teams that hit 60 in week 1-2, either didnt run a tank, or used a warrior. Outside of this, feral is optimal IF you are running a tank... But again, good spellcleaves do not run a tank.
Also, warriors can melee cleave... No prot paladin is pushing a warrior from their spot, because a warriors spot is on a melee cleave. I was on a melee cleave as a warrior, and being that I built my team, I wanted to be on a melee cleave because its far easier and more achievable than a spell cleave.
I'll just go back to my normal rotation when kings gets nerfed personally (doubt it will).
Classic is a lot easier than private so regardless MTing will be easy.
It's not Kings only , i aggroed all mobs in low lvl dungeon by buffing 5 minutes blessing of wisdom either , which made me go like WTF .
You are right. It not just Kings. Kings is just the most used one because it has the lowest mana cost out of all Blessings.
Ironically the only blessing which causes NO threat whatsoever is Wisdom, which you claim to have pulled aggro with. So now you are just making stuff up again like always :)
And I have to concede that I have yet to tank a raid in Classic. I just prefer to heal as thats how I can support my raid team to the largest degree right now. I am a team player and I will nearly always attempt to play in such a way that benefit the team the most. I am also raidleading, and being in the back as a healer lets me have a larger overview of whats happening on the board so I can do my job more effectively. If I do happen to be in a position where I get to tank, then I will jump on it, but until then Im staying as healer.
Reality burning them .... Prot Paladins are now part of "Spell Cleave" , what's so special about it, is that such "spell cleave" is beyond min/maxers and pushing Rogues/Warriors DPS or TANKS off from their spots.
The Millenials favor us (Hybrids) more than ever before today.
Just enjoy when BWL release, feel the outcry of Rogues and Warriors who couldn't cope with the "Spell Cleave" .
What? Okay... SO first of all, good spell cleave teams that are min/maxing, dont run a tank. Secondly, warriors were the kingpin of aoe threat when demo was broken. So the good spell cleave teams that hit 60 in week 1-2, either didnt run a tank, or used a warrior. Outside of this, feral is optimal IF you are running a tank... But again, good spellcleaves do not run a tank.
Also, warriors can melee cleave... No prot paladin is pushing a warrior from their spot, because a warriors spot is on a melee cleave. I was on a melee cleave as a warrior, and being that I built my team, I wanted to be on a melee cleave because its far easier and more achievable than a spell cleave.
You might hate it as much as you want, people today prefer to play more with skilled prot paladin than any sort of warrior or druid tank in 5 mans. This is part of the pushing off ways ... You just ignore to see it or either you are horde and have no clue about it.
You might hate it as much as you want, people today prefer to play more with skilled prot paladin than any sort of warrior or druid tank in 5 mans. This is part of the pushing off ways ... You just ignore to see it or either you are horde and have no clue about it.
I mean... Youre wrong. You cant just say something definitively and expect everyone else to accept your delusional interpretation of the situation. Granted, youre only about level 30. I was actually on a cleave team and lead a guild of about 8 cleave teams. I now lead a guild of 3 raid teams that kill Rag weekly. So our experience levels are a bit different. Youre still leveling and youre still learning.
This is how i changed the evolution regarding Prot Paladins , and ofc many experts came out (pretending as experts) today, mainly those who shitting on me and are claiming themselfs as best Paladin Tanks in world.... ..
That delusional ego. Wow.
That delusional ego. Wow.
I actually imagine that Duki was a lot like me before the big accident and then became a super exaggerated version of what he used to be. So instead of being a bit pompous and obnoxious, sort of irritating but harmless, he just went full blown brain injury cray cray.
This thread just gets more and more wild every time I look at it. It is good to know that millennials prefer prot paladins, I had no idea what I really wanted.
That delusional ego. Wow.
I actually imagine that Duki was a lot like me before the big accident and then became a super exaggerated version of what he used to be. So instead of being a bit pompous and obnoxious, sort of irritating but harmless, he just went full blown brain injury cray cray.
And i do wonder why Moderators still tolerating insulting ,when they said they are going to monitor and chill the insulting down.
From what i see , we have raging coalition kids who are here to derail the Topic Discussion into Killerduki Discussion.
Instead of keeping this Topic as "Serious Discussion on Paladin Tanking" and NOT as "Serious Discussion on Killerduki" .
Your Criticism is often Off Topic and if i was Moderator , every single discussion OUTSIDE of "Serioud Discussion on Protection Paladin" , would been completely removed.
This is unfortunately not the case right here , looking for past 15 pages at least.