Alright you little Prick , FIND ME A SINGLE THEORYCRAFT WEBSITE FROM 2005 OR 2006 WITH EVIDENCE THAT WARRIORS ARE BETTER TANKS THAN PALADINS! MAKE SURE IT IS EXPLAINED ON DETAILS WHY , NUMBERS AND ETC.
THEN COME HERE WITH YOUR CLAIMS THAT WARRIORS ARE MORE OPTIMAL THAN PALADINS ON TANKING!
You want me to prove that warriors are better tanks than prot pallies? Okay. Every guild ever uses a warrior to maintank. Warriors can main tank all content, always, paladins can not. Paladins don't have taunt. Paladins have a finite amount of mana. Warriors are the optimal tank.
"COME HERE WITH YOUR CLAIMS THAT WARRIORS ARE MORE OPTIMAL THAN PALADINS ON TANKING!"... Are you serious? Warriors are optimal. Source: Every progression guild ever. Nice attempt though. Look forward to seeing your progression in Classic. Keep me posted. :lol:
In the meantime I'll work on my rogue healing build. If I can just level high enough to unlock runecloth bandages I should be able to main heal for Ragefire Chasm groups. Its totally viable.
Alright you little Prick , FIND ME A SINGLE THEORYCRAFT WEBSITE FROM 2005 OR 2006 WITH EVIDENCE THAT WARRIORS ARE BETTER TANKS THAN PALADINS! MAKE SURE IT IS EXPLAINED ON DETAILS WHY , NUMBERS AND ETC.
THEN COME HERE WITH YOUR CLAIMS THAT WARRIORS ARE MORE OPTIMAL THAN PALADINS ON TANKING!
You want me to prove that warriors are better tanks than prot pallies? Okay. Every guild ever uses a warrior to maintank. Warriors can main tank all content, always, paladins can not. Paladins don't have taunt. Paladins have a finite amount of mana. Warriors are the optimal tank.
"COME HERE WITH YOUR CLAIMS THAT WARRIORS ARE MORE OPTIMAL THAN PALADINS ON TANKING!"... Are you serious? Warriors are optimal. Source: Every progression guild ever. Nice attempt though. Look forward to seeing your progression in Classic. Keep me posted. :lol:
In the meantime I'll work on my rogue healing build. If I can just level high enough to unlock runecloth bandages I should be able to main heal for Ragefire Chasm groups. Its totally viable.
You want me to prove that warriors are better tanks than prot pallies? Okay. Every guild ever uses a warrior to maintank.
Is that even Evidence?! You are shitting 100% now.
Warriors can main tank all content, always, paladins can not.
Paladins can main tank all contents too! Only Noobs can't! Otherwise come and prove your claim first!
Paladins don't have taunt.
They don't need it , if they know how to Tank!
Paladins have a finite amount of mana
Warriors have a finite amount of Rage too!
Warriors are the optimal tank.
According to what?!
Warriors are optimal. Source: Every progression guild ever.
My Shit is bigger than your , Source : Come see in my Ass!
You must be so much more delusional than every 99% of the Anti Hybrid Haters i've seen for the past 5 years on this Private Servers Scene.
In the meantime I'll work on my rogue healing build. If I can just level high enough to unlock runecloth bandages I should be able to main heal for Ragefire Chasm groups. Its totally viable.
Good luck , i doubt Rogues have "Holy" in their "Talent" tree! Just like Paladins have "Protection" .
Good luck , I doubt Rogues have "Holy" in their "Talent" tree! Just like Paladins have "Protection" .
It doesn't matter how terrible of an idea it is and how awfully slow and inefficient it is, it works! Therefore its viable. Whats that you say? It will slow the group down like prot paladin tanking? Who cares it makes me feel special! Whats that you say, I need to be too geared or too high for the content to make it work? Still viable! Whats that, I will need the group to cater to my needs to ensure they kite mobs properly to avoid damage so my bandages dont get interrupted similar to how prot pallys have no taunt and will need the group to be hyper aware of the pallies needs? Who cares Im special!!! Whats that you say, my spec is almost entirely based on consumables (bandages) exactly like prot paladin tanking? Still viable!!!
As ridiculous as rogue healing with bandages is... You can begin to see the similarities. Though, it is viable... So who am I to judge?
killerduki, a lot of forum members and pserver/classic players are not going to come around to accept "meme specs". I think the sooner you can accept that and move on, the easier things will be. There are plenty of players on the forum who are willing to talk about hybrid specs etc. in detail and in a positive manner. Caperfin is always up for a chat, and if your thread gets derailed and dissolves into a pointless argument, then you can try PM'ing him to keep the discussion positive/constructive.
Unfortunately some of the negativity/resistance you will receive on the forums is a mirror of what you have probably witnessed on Pservers and will likely witness on Classic. It is a shame, but it has become a reality. It seems like you have a lot of knowledge and ability with Prot Paladin, and I think you will likely find a great guild and community to flourish in that position like you did on pservers.
I'm a feral druid, they are in less of a predicament than Prot paly, but there is definitely some level of discrimination for playing part of the game others won't bother/consider trying.
killerduki, a lot of forum members and pserver/classic players are not going to come around to accept "meme specs". I think the sooner you can accept that and move on, the easier things will be. There are plenty of players on the forum who are willing to talk about hybrid specs etc. in detail and in a positive manner. Caperfin is always up for a chat, and if your thread gets derailed and dissolves into a pointless argument, then you can try PM'ing him to keep the discussion positive/constructive.
Unfortunately some of the negativity/resistance you will receive on the forums is a mirror of what you have probably witnessed on Pservers and will likely witness on Classic. It is a shame, but it has become a reality. It seems like you have a lot of knowledge and ability with Prot Paladin, and I think you will likely find a great guild and community to flourish in that position like you did on pservers.
I'm a feral druid, they are in less of a predicament than Prot paly, but there is definitely some level of discrimination for playing part of the game others won't bother/consider trying.
killerduki, a lot of forum members and pserver/classic players are not going to come around to accept "meme specs". I think the sooner you can accept that and move on, the easier things will be.
I know that mentality stigma and from where it came, it came from Pservers like Feenix back in 2013 where everything was Junk Bugged and Joke Scripted , because of that stuffs , Hybrids got Title "Meme Specs" , "Junk Specs" , "Not Viable Specs" , "Not Optimal Specs" and so on.
All the stuffs never existed or was extremely rare back in 2005/2006 , but it developed for first time in 2013 at Private Servers scene like Feenix, which got expanded in Nostalrius (who was again full with bugs and wrong scripts) which spread this Virus even more thanks to wrong scripts and bugs, later ended up like "being normal" in today's mentality and brainwashing ways.
There are plenty of players on the forum who are willing to talk about hybrid specs etc. in detail and in a positive manner. Caperfin is always up for a chat, and if your thread gets derailed and dissolves into a pointless argument, then you can try PM'ing him to keep the discussion positive/constructive.
That's the biggest problem for Protection Paladins , anytime they try to expand stuffs in constructive and positive manner , to teach people who want to enjoy playing it and learning it , we always end up being derailed with some 10 yrs kids and Trolls , what's most important is that , none of them have a fucking clue how stuffs work , but they are here to shit on your post.
Unfortunately some of the negativity/resistance you will receive on the forums is a mirror of what you have probably witnessed on Pservers and will likely witness on Classic. It is a shame, but it has become a reality.
That's the real problem what usually kills Classic , not because of "prot paladins" , but because of the "Hardcore monolithic Mentality from today Kids" .
It seems like you have a lot of knowledge and ability with Prot Paladin, and I think you will likely find a great guild and community to flourish in that position like you did on pservers.
I am going to run my own Guild , that how i did on these Pservers and how i am going to do it again, at least that's easy for me as skilled 14 years WoW player (Raid Leader,GM,Class Leader) and 14 years skilled Protection Paladin.
I'm a feral druid, they are in less of a predicament than Prot paly, but there is definitely some level of discrimination for playing part of the game others won't bother/consider trying.
Agree.
I am going to run my own Guild , that how i did on these Pservers and how i am going to do it again, at least that's easy for me as skilled 14 years WoW player (Raid Leader,GM,Class Leader) and 14 years skilled Protection Paladin.
Please post unedited versions of your raids on your first few nights of progression! This would be like the disaster artist movie meets vanilla WoW raiding! I can just see it now. All jokes aside, this could draw a MASSIVE following! I would watch and subscribe. The irony of a prot pally tank trying to reprimand his poor performing members and to get them to perform better. It would be the ultimate version of raid satire.
In essence, having a few of these meme specs around can always add some flavor, but where do you draw the line? Look at it this way... It takes a certain amount of throughput to down content. If your guild goes FULL min/max tryhard mode, you will defeat the boss. If your guild goes FULL meme with shaman tanks and prot pallies and boomkins, you will fail. There is a certain amount of memery that any guild can support, but that memery has a limit. Vanilla raids have a TON of lenience, which is why there is some wiggle room for these awful specs, but at what point do you put limits on your own guild? Surely you wont let everyone play whatever they want? And if you do, and then hit a wall where you fail to progress due to your poor throughput, whats next? Do you consider your numbers and make changes (towards min/maxing) to help down the content, wouldnt that be hypocritical?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXN5Qo07dA&t=1s
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Published on May 3, 2006
Protection Paladin Main Tanking Onyxia , you can see the Video (His Spells and Abilites was from PRE 1.9 Patch).
That mean Pre 1.9 Patch = Hardmode Onyxia , NO AQ.
It's a meme video for Grievous, duki :) There are no DPS on that fight.
a lot of forum members and pserver/classic players are not going to come around to accept "meme specs".
Healer Rogue is a meme spec. Protection Paladin is not a meme spec. I hope you understand the difference :wink:
It will slow the group down like prot paladin tanking?
Paladin tanking doesn't slow groups down.
Whats that you say, I need to be too geared or too high for the content to make it work? Still viable!
A prot Paladin doesn't need to be "too geared" to make it work.
..similar to how prot pallys have no taunt and will need the group to be hyper aware of the pallies needs?
Protadin doesn't need the group to be hyper-aware of not having a taunt.
Whats that you say, my spec is almost entirely based on consumables (bandages) exactly like prot paladin tanking? Still viable!!!
Protadin is NOT based on consumables.
As ridiculous as rogue healing with bandages is... You can begin to see the similarities. Though, it is viable... So who am I to judge?
There are no similarities. The only similarity was created in YOUR head.
Killerduki is correct in saying that you're throwing statements left and right, but describing only YOUR anecdotal experience or some unconfirmed general consensus as the proof of your statements.
Stfuppercut Please provide actual evidence and examples for your claims:
- How much faster is a group of the same composition using a Warrior tank compared to using a Paladin tank?
- How much better gear does a Paladin tank require to "make it work" than a Warrior tank?
- What exactly does the group need to be aware of because of having a Paladin tank?
- Which consumables are the neccessity for Paladin tanking?
Paladin tanking doesn't slow groups down.
It does, because they need to drink. Constantly.
A prot Paladin doesn't need to be "too geared" to make it work.
They do in comparison to other tanks. They are less efficient.
Protadin doesn't need the group to be hyper-aware of not having a taunt.
They do because taunts are a reactionary ability to allow the tank to re-establish threat. This is important for mobs with threat dumps and on encounters where the tank is temporarily stunned or CC'd and needs to retake threat. You will lose threat. Whether a group member jumps you on threat or an extra pack is pulled, taunt is important. This is a huge issue for prot paladins. Groups make mistakes and taunt allows you to mitigate loss, without it you are depending on others to play without error; this is unrealistic. This isn't there only issue though... They have no ranged ability. Exorcism for demons and undead and then judgement on 10 yards range??? So you depend on your group to setup your line of sight pulls? Handing off a tanking responsibility to others and depending on them to take a portion of your responsibility so that you can be a snowflake? This is the part where you tell me you will use engineering and then I tell you that grenades are consumables... See comment below.
Protadin is NOT based on consumables.
Yes they are. HIGHLY based on consumables in fact. You dont plan on using dark runes or mana pots and youre going to play a prot paladin? No engineering? Any of the other pallies in here want to back this guy up? I have heard some wild things in this thread but nothing quite that wild.
Here is a tankadin guide.
https://www.warcrafttavern.com/guides/tankadin-guide-playing-as-a-protection-paladin-in-wow-classic/
First four points on the guide include:
Most people will think you’re completely useless.
Use all consumables that you can.
Soulforge is not good for any spec PVE.
You have to be VERY dedicated to even have a chance at making this work.
Even people who are writing guides in support of this class, disagree with you. You are insane if you think you can play a prot pally without consumes.
Killerduki is correct in saying that you're throwing statements left and right, but describing only YOUR anecdotal experience or some unconfirmed general consensus as the proof of your statements.
Hearing that your spec sucks isnt easy. It wont be easy for prot pallys the entire time they are playing. It wont be easy to know that you are replaceable and that most people will feel uncomfortable investing gear into a suboptimal tank. In a perfect world paladins would be as good as warriors, but they are not. They are viable but they are far from optimal. They wont be worth playing for the majority of users. That being said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I look forward to tracking Duki's progress as his guild advances through Classic :lol: . Additionally, I am okay with being the voice of reason in this thread to protect a would-be prot paladin who doesn't know any better from investing time into a spec that is very bad.
@Stfuppercut Please provide actual evidence and examples for your claims:
- How much faster is a group of the same composition using a Warrior tank compared to using a Paladin tank?
- How much better gear does a Paladin tank require to "make it work" than a Warrior tank?
- What exactly does the group need to be aware of because of having a Paladin tank?
- Which consumables are the neccessity for Paladin tanking?
Some of this can be found in the guide I linked. I'll be honest, I googled paladin guide and clicked the first link. I'm not going to invest a lot of time into explaining why prot pallies are trash, because they are. I've played with quite a few and none were very good. None are listed very high on parses from private. No serious guilds bring prot paladins. A warrior can pull so long as his healer has mana. A paladin is more concerned with his own mana and will take more time drinking than the healer does, in this way a prot paladin makes the group less efficient. The group needs to be aware of the short comings of a protadin. For example prot pallies generate a TON of their threat by BEING hit, which causes issues when they LOSE threat. They don't have a taunt and due to mana constraints can have issues pulling threat again. When Classic rolls around you boys can tell me how much success you've had. You aren't going to reinvent the wheel... Prot paladins are bad. Can you MAKE them viable? Sure. No one will be begging for prot pallies in their groups or raids though. The best outcome you could have is to create a guild like Duki and surround yourself with enablers who carry you. Without the support of others, this spec falls on its face. My evidence is 15 years of collective community player experience that leads the majority of the community to scoffing at this spec. If you want to play a prot paladin, PLAY IT! Dont try to justify your suboptimal and selfish actions.
killerduki Did you even watch the Ony video you posted? The paladin did horrible... He used a TON of consumes. He almost died a handful of times and was carried by the healers as a meme! They just spammed him with heals while he slowly auto attacked lol. The video ENDS as Ony goes into air phase? Are you so inexperienced that you dont even know what you are watching? This was not a full encounter... This was not a clean encounter and that was NOT a good representation of a prot pally tanking.
Paladin tanking doesn't slow groups down.
It does, because they need to drink. Constantly.
A prot Paladin doesn't need to be "too geared" to make it work.
They do in comparison to other tanks. They are less efficient.
Protadin doesn't need the group to be hyper-aware of not having a taunt.
They do because taunts are a reactionary ability to allow the tank to re-establish threat. This is important for mobs with threat dumps and on encounters where the tank is temporarily stunned or CC'd and needs to retake threat. You will lose threat. Whether a group member jumps you on threat or an extra pack is pulled, taunt is important. This is a huge issue for prot paladins. Groups make mistakes and taunt allows you to mitigate loss, without it you are depending on others to play without error; this is unrealistic. This isn't there only issue though... They have no ranged ability. Exorcism for demons and undead and then judgement on 10 yards range??? So you depend on your group to setup your line of sight pulls? Handing off a tanking responsibility to others and depending on them to take a portion of your responsibility so that you can be a snowflake? This is the part where you tell me you will use engineering and then I tell you that grenades are consumables... See comment below.
Protadin is NOT based on consumables.
Yes they are. HIGHLY based on consumables in fact. You dont plan on using dark runes or mana pots and youre going to play a prot paladin? No engineering? Any of the other pallies in here want to back this guy up? I have heard some wild things in this thread but nothing quite that wild.
Here is a tankadin guide.
https://www.warcrafttavern.com/guides/tankadin-guide-playing-as-a-protection-paladin-in-wow-classic/
First four points on the guide include:
Most people will think you’re completely useless.
Use all consumables that you can.
Soulforge is not good for any spec PVE.
You have to be VERY dedicated to even have a chance at making this work.
Even people who are writing guides in support of this class, disagree with you. You are insane if you think you can play a prot pally without consumes.
Killerduki is correct in saying that you're throwing statements left and right, but describing only YOUR anecdotal experience or some unconfirmed general consensus as the proof of your statements.
Hearing that your spec sucks isnt easy. It wont be easy for prot pallys the entire time they are playing. It wont be easy to know that you are replaceable and that most people will feel uncomfortable investing gear into a suboptimal tank. In a perfect world paladins would be as good as warriors, but they are not. They are viable but they are far from optimal. They wont be worth playing for the majority of users. That being said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I look forward to tracking Duki's progress as his guild advances through Classic :lol: . Additionally, I am okay with being the voice of reason in this thread to protect a would-be prot paladin who doesn't know any better from investing time into a spec that is very bad.
@Stfuppercut Please provide actual evidence and examples for your claims:
- How much faster is a group of the same composition using a Warrior tank compared to using a Paladin tank?
- How much better gear does a Paladin tank require to "make it work" than a Warrior tank?
- What exactly does the group need to be aware of because of having a Paladin tank?
- Which consumables are the neccessity for Paladin tanking?
Some of this can be found in the guide I linked. I'll be honest, I googled paladin guide and clicked the first link. I'm not going to invest a lot of time into explaining why prot pallies are trash, because they are. I've played with quite a few and none were very good. None are listed very high on parses from private. No serious guilds bring prot paladins. A warrior can pull so long as his healer has mana. A paladin is more concerned with his own mana and will take more time drinking than the healer does, in this way a prot paladin makes the group less efficient. The group needs to be aware of the short comings of a protadin. For example prot pallies generate a TON of their threat by BEING hit, which causes issues when they LOSE threat. They don't have a taunt and due to mana constraints can have issues pulling threat again. When Classic rolls around you boys can tell me how much success you've had. You aren't going to reinvent the wheel... Prot paladins are bad. Can you MAKE them viable? Sure. No one will be begging for prot pallies in their groups or raids though. The best outcome you could have is to create a guild like Duki and surround yourself with enablers who carry you. Without the support of others, this spec falls on its face. My evidence is 15 years of collective community player experience that leads the majority of the community to scoffing at this spec. If you want to play a prot paladin, PLAY IT! Dont try to justify your suboptimal and selfish actions.
They do in comparison to other tanks. They are less efficient.
And you just have seen an unedited Footage of Protection Paladin Main Tanking using Green Gear and Pre Raid Gear while still doing the job properly and still being efficient in killing the Boss!
It does, because they need to drink. Constantly.
Seal and Judgement of Wisdom with Demonic Runes and Mana Potions as backup tells how you have literally 0 fucking clue about this Game!
Yes they are. HIGHLY based on consumables in fact. You dont plan on using dark runes or mana pots and youre going to play a prot paladin? No engineering? Any of the other pallies in here want to back this guy up? I have heard some wild things in this thread but nothing quite that wild.
Here is a tankadin guide.
https://www.warcrafttavern.com/guides/tankadin-guide-playing-as-a-protection-paladin-in-wow-classic/
First four points on the guide include:
Most people will think you’re completely useless.
Use all consumables that you can.
Soulforge is not good for any spec PVE.
You have to be VERY dedicated to even have a chance at making this work.
Even people who are writing guides in support of this class, disagree with you. You are insane if you think you can play a prot pally without consumes.
What is written in the Bottom of the Website :
This guide was originally posted by Cysthen on the WoW One forums and has been preserved here.
This is what i wrote about biggest lies about Protection Paladin , Cystheen and Skarm who preach false info about them , even i wrote that in my previous post about it , but you still came out coming with that conclusion and providing us HIS Website , isn't it an Irony!?
And this is what you completely Ignored in those Posts :
Only because you been watching fucking Noobs , doesn't make your Facts valid, i know there are so much called "Fake News" Protection Paladin Experts like "Skarm" , "Cystheen" etc etc , but keep in mind they are people "WHO HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE HOW PALADIN WORK".
I know that mentality stigma and from where it came, it came from Pservers like Feenix back in 2013 where everything was Junk Bugged and Joke Scripted , because of that stuffs , Hybrids got Title "Meme Specs" , "Junk Specs" , "Not Viable Specs" , "Not Optimal Specs" and so on.
All the stuffs never existed or was extremely rare back in 2005/2006 , but it developed for first time in 2013 at Private Servers scene like Feenix,
And on top of that , you also ignored all my Videos and Screenshots of me Main Tanking Raids and Tanking 5 mans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIfwHZ5C9I&t=1s
Here ^ is education Video for Protection Paladins and for you to learn about it, it's on poor English and bad Quality , but this is how Paladin Protection working instead of how "They Represent" .
Ignorance is Bliss and you are very good on that , i like it , because i can see what your purpose is here, to Troll , to ignore everything that was said to you and to derail this thread!
killerduki
Sure bud. Because whats more reasonable... Everyone else has no idea how to play this trash spec and you are one of the very few who can make it viable? Or that the spec is just trash... If the first is true, you probably shouldn't be recommending it to other players like OP, especially if they are casual. If the second is true, you're wrong.
killerduki
Sure bud. Because whats more reasonable... Everyone else has no idea how to play this trash spec and you are one of the very few who can make it viable? Or that the spec is just trash... If the first is true, you probably shouldn't be recommending it to other players like OP, especially if they are casual. If the second is true, you're wrong.
I play Protection Paladin over 14 Years and it is funny how trolls like you coming here and preaching stuffs that i have already experienced long ago , also telling me wrong, when i do those stuffs on daily basis.
Yes i guarantee 90% of Protection Paladins are trash and 100% of the current Streamers and Preachers who Preach about Protection Paladins have no clue how Protection Paladin work , let alone example you threw like Skarm and Cystheen.
But they are "Popular" , so they must be Valid ! :) (Irony).
I play Protection Paladin over 14 Years and it is funny how trolls like you coming here and preaching stuffs that i have already experienced long ago , also telling me wrong, when i do those stuffs on daily basis.
Yes i guarantee 90% of Protection Paladins are trash and 100% of the current Streamers and Preachers who Preach about Protection Paladins have no clue how Protection Paladin work , let alone example you threw like Skarm and Cystheen.
But they are "Popular" , so they must be Valid ! :) (Irony).
You enjoy prot paladin. Despite prot paladin performing poorly in comparison to other tanks YOU enjoy it. You don't need to justify your choice. You have FUN as a prot paladin! You surround yourself with guild members who likely enjoy playing with you despite the fact that you are a prot pally or perhaps because THEY enjoy playing with a prot paladin. Class choices are subjective. Even though your spec is awful and should not be recommended to a new player, YOU value it, and that is all that matters. Doing something that is sub optimal for 14 years does not make it optimal. Perhaps you have become incredibly adept at playing that sub optimal spec, but if you put the same effort into EITHER of the other two tanks available, you would have a better results. The great news is, you don't have to. You can continue to play that sub optimal spec but screeching that it is optimal, does not make it optimal. I can feel your passion in your posts... You LOVE that spec. Far be it from me to take that from you, I wouldn't dare, nor would I advocate that anyone else should stifle someone so passionate about a single spec.
Given the fact that this spec is SO dominant, I'm sure we will see it used in speed clears and server firsts! (sarcasm). The popularity of a spec is almost always correlated with the specs performance.
I play Protection Paladin over 14 Years and it is funny how trolls like you coming here and preaching stuffs that i have already experienced long ago , also telling me wrong, when i do those stuffs on daily basis.
Yes i guarantee 90% of Protection Paladins are trash and 100% of the current Streamers and Preachers who Preach about Protection Paladins have no clue how Protection Paladin work , let alone example you threw like Skarm and Cystheen.
But they are "Popular" , so they must be Valid ! :) (Irony).
You enjoy prot paladin. Despite prot paladin performing poorly in comparison to other tanks YOU enjoy it. You don't need to justify your choice. You have FUN as a prot paladin! You surround yourself with guild members who likely enjoy playing with you despite the fact that you are a prot pally or perhaps because THEY enjoy playing with a prot paladin. Class choices are subjective. Even though your spec is awful and should not be recommended to a new player, YOU value it, and that is all that matters. Doing something that is sub optimal for 14 years does not make it optimal. Perhaps you have become incredibly adept at playing that sub optimal spec, but if you put the same effort into EITHER of the other two tanks available, you would have a better results. The great news is, you don't have to. You can continue to play that sub optimal spec but screeching that it is optimal, does not make it optimal. I can feel your passion in your posts... You LOVE that spec. Far be it from me to take that from you, I wouldn't dare, nor would I advocate that anyone else should stifle someone so passionate about a single spec.
Given the fact that this spec is SO dominant, I'm sure we will see it used in speed clears and server firsts! (sarcasm). The popularity of a spec is almost always correlated with the specs performance.
You can continue to play that sub optimal spec but screeching that it is optimal, does not make it optimal.
And you NEVER EVER provided a single Evidence about your Claims telling that Paladins not being Optimal, but therefore you screech all the time about it and derailing this very Productive Topic about Protection Paladin.....
"Reality" .
And you NEVER EVER provided a single Evidence about your Claims telling that Paladins not being Optimal, but therefore you screech all the time about it and derailing this very Productive Topic about Protection Paladin.....
"Reality" .
My evidence is Cystheen and Skarm but you say that doesn't count. While you demand evidence, and there is a WIDE body of evidence to indicate that prot pallys are awful (namely that no one plays them or brings them to raids) you also dismiss those who disagree with you. You call them noobs... Yet you yourself play a sub optimal spec, so your judgement is questionable at best.