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Psojed

Alright, looked over your suggestions and corrected the ones I agree on... The first part about the axes and hit gear for dwarves was a mindslip, obviously! =D

About the arguments in swapping those three pieces, I don't agree. I feel that the 15 min CD is enough to be used on each boss. Sure, you can swap gear on trash, but 30 secs of fame is what I'd go for.

Updated all of the prot pieces you suggested, both in pp1 and pp2. Good stuff!
..and regarding the cloak; yes, I have been thinking about a TPS gear for prot paladins as well, however I have no experience at all doing it. Do you? I'd love to pick your mind! ;)

 
Posted : 01/07/2019 7:25 am
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Corrected enchants for casters, healers, hunters and ferals in pp1-p2. Updated prot paladin pp1-pp2.

 
Posted : 01/07/2019 11:18 am
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Updated all of the prot pieces you suggested, both in pp1 and pp2. Good stuff!

Those gloves and legs need to be updated in p2 and p3 too :) Oh and in the dressing room links.

But wait, there's more!
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14555 from fire rez gear (pally can't use dagger).
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18203 from p2 (pally can't use fist weapon).
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19138 from p2 (we use Naglering, then switch to this, then switch back to Naglering for p3?)
Change https://classic.wowhead.com/item=12619 to https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14623 in p3 (basically a downgrade if we switch to Enchanted Thorium Legs).
In "preparation for Suppression room" I would use MP5 trinkets https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17064 and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18371 and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=13243 to abuse our Blessing of Sanctuary (35 Holy dmg returned with each block).

..and regarding the cloak; yes, I have been thinking about a TPS gear for prot paladins as well, however I have no experience at all doing it. Do you? I'd love to pick your mind! ;)
TPS gear for Paladin would be spell damage gear. That usually has no tanking stats, so you need to find the balance between tank gear and spelldmg gear. The usual way is to just use spelldmg weapon, and keep tanking gear in other slots, as there is also not much to choose from:
The only spelldmg Plate in pre-raid are: https://classic.wowhead.com/item=11632 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=13168 so that's not very helpful. In p1 you have T2 pieces (head, legs), p2 unlocks PvP gear with spell damage, p3 unlocks rest of T2. Then you wait for T2.5 in p5 and off-set gloves from Viscidus, then p6 unlocks off-set "Grand Crusader" epics. There are few off-set spell dmg plate pieces from AQ20, which are of course inferior to T2.5. You already have T2/T2.5 in the Tankadin bis lists :)

TPS Weapons - pre-raid it's https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22383 then p1 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17103 (mages will hate you :D ) then p3 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19360 then p6 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22988 Enchant with spell damage, apply spell damage oil. I would consider using just the weapons as regular part of tankadin bis instead of making a separate TPS list.

 
Posted : 01/07/2019 1:35 pm
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Alright, cool! I'll set up a decent TPS set I the days to come. Interesting! :-)

 
Posted : 02/07/2019 9:23 am
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Btw, what about Thunder Fury? That's still BiS due to the threat on the proc, right?

 
Posted : 02/07/2019 9:25 am
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...also, if I were to go for some hit, would that be spell- or phys hit?

 
Posted : 02/07/2019 10:36 am
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Updated all of the prot pieces you suggested, both in pp1 and pp2. Good stuff!

Those gloves and legs need to be updated in p2 and p3 too :) Oh and in the dressing room links.

But wait, there's more!
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14555 from fire rez gear (pally can't use dagger).
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18203 from p2 (pally can't use fist weapon).
Remove https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19138 from p2 (we use Naglering, then switch to this, then switch back to Naglering for p3?)
Change https://classic.wowhead.com/item=12619 to https://classic.wowhead.com/item=14623 in p3 (basically a downgrade if we switch to Enchanted Thorium Legs).
In "preparation for Suppression room" I would use MP5 trinkets https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17064 and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18371 and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=13243 to abuse our Blessing of Sanctuary (35 Holy dmg returned with each block).

..and regarding the cloak; yes, I have been thinking about a TPS gear for prot paladins as well, however I have no experience at all doing it. Do you? I'd love to pick your mind! ;)
TPS gear for Paladin would be spell damage gear. That usually has no tanking stats, so you need to find the balance between tank gear and spelldmg gear. The usual way is to just use spelldmg weapon, and keep tanking gear in other slots, as there is also not much to choose from:
The only spelldmg Plate in pre-raid are: https://classic.wowhead.com/item=11632 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=13168 so that's not very helpful. In p1 you have T2 pieces (head, legs), p2 unlocks PvP gear with spell damage, p3 unlocks rest of T2. Then you wait for T2.5 in p5 and off-set gloves from Viscidus, then p6 unlocks off-set "Grand Crusader" epics. There are few off-set spell dmg plate pieces from AQ20, which are of course inferior to T2.5. You already have T2/T2.5 in the Tankadin bis lists :)

TPS Weapons - pre-raid it's https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22383 then p1 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=17103 (mages will hate you :D ) then p3 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19360 then p6 https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22988 Enchant with spell damage, apply spell damage oil. I would consider using just the weapons as regular part of tankadin bis instead of making a separate TPS list.

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Posted : 29/07/2019 11:54 am
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Launch date incoming! Bump!

 
Posted : 18/08/2019 2:22 am
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Updated according to the last announcement, regarding dungeon loot tables pre phase 5.

 
Posted : 21/08/2019 1:25 pm
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You know, if this is really a guide it should be in the guide section of the site instead of you bumping your own guide in the main forum.

Edit: Yes I know I did bump it, but only by 30 minutes...as opposed to the OP bringing it back to the top every few days/weeks over and over.

 
Posted : 21/08/2019 1:59 pm
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