Battlezones: World PvP Battle for Resources Idea – Page 9 – PvP

RedridgeGnoll · 2019-07-04T21:16:32Z

This is a feature that could be added to Classic WoW later on. I think that World PvP in Classic WoW could use some improvements. This battle for resources concept is inspired by Warcraft 3. The contested territory in Azeroth would essentially have resources that both factions would fight over. The battles would rotate between each of the contested zones, and last about an hour or so. The purpose would be to earn bonus honor by helping your faction stockpile gold, lumber, and food. The more resources a player contributes to their faction's total, the more bonus honor they receive at the end of the battle.There would be Gold, Lumber, and Food nodes that spawn across a zone during the battle. If killed in the zone while a battle was taking place, the player would drop any resources they had collected. Players would need to gather 25 of a resource in order to contribute to their faction's score. The 25 resources would be removed from their inventory, and added to the resource score. An example would be as follows:Battle Zone:Winterspring (Ends when one faction caps each resource)Horde: 0/1000 Gold 0/1000 Food 0/1000 Lumber Alliance: 0/1000 Gold 0/1000 Food 0/1000 Lumber A serverwide message would announce that Winterspring is the new battle zone. Gold, Lumber, and Food resources would spawn in Winterspring. Players would roam the zone looting these resources. Once you collect 25 Gold, Lumber, or Food, it would be taken from your inventory and added to your faction's resource score. So you loot 20 lumber, then kill a player and loot 10 lumber off of that player. You contribute 25 lumber to the resource score, and get left with 5 in your inventory. Once you have secured resources for your faction, you would be eligble for bonus honor.The more resources that a player turns in, the more Honor they receive when the battle ends. Players would earn 100 honor per resource they turn in. If a player contributes 30 lumber, 15 gold, and 20 food to their faction's total, they would earn (30x100) + (15x100) + (20x100) = 6,500 honor. When one faction reaches the Gold, Lumber, and Food caps, they will be declared the winner of the battle. The winning faction will receive an honor and experience buff in the zone for a set amount of time. When the Winterspring battle ends, a new zone will be designated as a battle zone and the resource caps will be reset.

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I have suggested specific changes to The Silithyst Must Flow, which was the Silithus World PvP Objective.

The original system worked as follows.

Carry and turn-in 1 Geyser at a faction basecamp for 200 honor. (This made it pointless to PvP, since you could easily just collect 1 geyser yourself and ignore PvP.)

Players can only carry 1 Geyser at a time. (This meant players only dropped one Geyser if killed, which made killing them pointless to begin with.)

Players have their movement speed reduced while carrying a Geyser. (Annoying mechanic that was a poor solution and made the experience clunky.)

When one faction completed enough turn-ins, they received faction-wide buffs. (This seemed fine to be honest.)

Proposed changes that fix the original issues.

10 Geysers are required for turn-ins. (This way players need to roam and collect not just 1 Geyser. More roaming and smallscale fights.They need to collect 10 geyers to receive the honor reward.)

10 Geysers are automatically turned in. (No basecamps, instead players receive the honor reward anywhere in the zone to discourage turn-in route camping.)

Players can see the number of Geysers another player is carrying when within a certain range. (If a player has 8 Geysers and a nearby players has 2 Geysers, then a potential PvP fight could happen. Players with few or no Geysers would be incentivized to attack another player that is carrying several many.)

Variable honor reward based on faction population (Underpopulated factions in a battlezone receive more honor for a 10 Geyser turn-in. Overpopulated factions receive less.)

Players would not be slowed or impaired while carrying Geysers.

This new system has not existed in WoW or any MMORPG that I am aware of. It is not fair to compare it to the original World PvP objectives in Classic.

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Posted : 13/07/2019 2:23 pm

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I have suggested specific changes to The Silithyst Must Flow

Posted : 13/07/2019 5:21 pm

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Posted : 13/07/2019 6:06 pm

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This new system has not existed in WoW or any MMORPG that I am aware of. It is not fair to compare it to the original World PvP objectives in Classic.

It's still super fucking boring though. If people still move around slowly, who wants to be on foot trying to mine TEN geysers, or have a series of PvP encounters while slow, seeking out new targets.

Also, do you get NO honor until you collect 10, or can you do a partial turn in? If there's no partial turn in, then you can't really do this activity while waiting on BGs to pop, while waiting for your friends to logon, etc

Ugh, you are terrible and this idea is really the worst. Lipstick on a pig, etc.

Posted : 13/07/2019 8:45 pm

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This new system has not existed in WoW or any MMORPG that I am aware of. It is not fair to compare it to the original World PvP objectives in Classic.

It's still super fucking boring though. If people still move around slowly, who wants to be on foot trying to mine TEN geysers, or have a series of PvP encounters while slow, seeking out new targets.

Also, do you get NO honor until you collect 10, or can you do a partial turn in? If there's no partial turn in, then you can't really do this activity while waiting on BGs to pop, while waiting for your friends to logon, etc

Ugh, you are terrible and this idea is really the worst. Lipstick on a pig, etc.

There would be no slows or movement impairing effects while carrying Geysers. Collecting 10 Geysers wouldn't take that long. It would depend on how crowded the battlezone is, and how aggressive the enemy faction is. Players could 10 collect geysers while waiting for a BG queue to pop. You wouldn't want a player roaming for an hour just trying to collect 10 Geysers. It would be more reasonable than that, and the respawn rates would reflect that also. Besides you could always just enter a Battlezone, track down a player with 8-9 Geysers and just gank them.

Posted : 13/07/2019 10:42 pm

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Maybe we should all just mutually close this thread by not posting anything.

Posted : 14/07/2019 12:33 am

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Maybe we should all just mutually close this thread by not posting anything.

Isnt it kind of fun though?!?! Its like watching a car accident. The dark side of us loves this.

Posted : 14/07/2019 1:05 pm

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Wow I have been sick for the last week and I come back to this thread and find its more like a mind field!

Stating my conclusion and im out...the reason world pvp was amazing was because it just happened.
People ganking were ganking because they wanted to have fun and stir shit up or just came across the other faction and decided they were red so they are dead. And the people being ganked was because of wrong place at the wrong time. Which started other people to jump in and help, starting a huge war. Adding collection shit makes it not wpvp anymore...in the sense of what vanilla wpvp was this would be a new type of wpvp, more calculated, more scheduled, more reason, more bullshit.

XRealm was not the reason for wpvp dying, world pvp never died in vanilla period.
If it did then, when i was playing in vanilla before tbc launched then who the hell was i killing in the open world and why were there named npcs joining in?

Posted : 15/07/2019 1:24 pm