I like meeting random people throughout the realm from different countries.. I prefer not playing with russians for obvious reasons of language barrier and latency issues.. I am actually looking forward to playing with germans, have done so before on retail in RBG groups without problems.
I personally love playing with ppl from all over the world.
But this is a big mistake, to many ppl in the EU either don't speak english or don't want to, i have been on servers where the primary language was not english, and i do understand that ppl wanna use their native tongue, but you try making a trade with someone that speak a different language, or joining a pug just to realize that the only english the party speaks was the "LF healer for XXX dungeon" they spammed in LFG/trade/general. that's the stuff nightmares are made of.
Not to mention looking at /1 and wondering what the #¤%& are ppl writing.
Even now the EU forum is being flooded with posts in every language present in the EU. They are however making a valid point by doing it, bc it does show what kinda problem communication is gonna be once the servers goes live.
I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.
Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe I do a german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.
I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.
Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe a do german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.
This would be a good Idea. Im also not in a german Guild, as you can see in my signature, im playing in GRIND, its a Guild from people all over the world. In principle we have been mostly private server players in the last 5+ years.
As a Latvian, I don't mind, but if I encounter some entitled fucks who can't speak in English and curse me in their native tongue that I don't understand, then we have a problem. For example - French. As people have mentioned they don't know or don't want to speak English.
I agree with Blizzard's decision of not creating language realm specific realms to not divide what they think will be a small community in the long term. However, knowing Blizzard, they will probably succumb to the pressure and create those realms eventually, to only realize they have small comunities one year from now, or so... I expect until then, various national guilds to rise up, but that is only normal, I guess.
I've played with people from every country, even some russians, who, by the way, where very nice people and very knowledgeble of their class. I'm not a native english speaker, and having been in a national guild before I can say it was nice, but it did have its limitations when we couldn't find anyone to fill a roll back in LK. Thus I prefer international guilds, I guess speaking or understanding spanish, italian, french, english and portuguese helps as I can group with them... By knowing just your own national language (and this includes english speaking people) limits your interaction with others...
I have no problem with this at all - the more the merrier.
As a Belgian, I speak both Dutch and French. I also speak and understand English + I understand German, but don't really speak it.
In addition, we can assume in the long run that the servers are really full. I can imagine that many of the people who are crying now are the people who quit the fastest.
I dont mind playing with people from other parts of the world, but when /1 General chat is spammed with any language other then english I get pissed. That includes my native language. As a Swede I would never choose a Swedish server if they ever existed. I dont mind other languages recruiting in their own language for their guild, but when they chat in general in another language then english, it pushes my buttons.
Well, Blizzard is trying to keep costs as low as possible. Good for them.
But as a french who always played on french servers on official WoW, even though I know it will be like private servers where communities quickly emerged and you didn't have to speak english the whole time you were playing, being forced by Blizzard to speak english to play WoW Classic annoys the shit out of me.
German and French servers (at least) were mandatory.
German and French servers (at least) were mandatory.
No. Not in my eyes.
There will be 100% guilds where only native speakers will be invited.
When you're in a guild, you usually just do things with people in your guild.
Furthermore, everyone will be able to write the following things.
LF1M <Instance> <Role>
LF <any Profession> <any Receipt>
LF ONLY <ANY LANGUAGE> SPEAKING GUILD
Btw. there is also the possible to create channels for example:
/join German
And then you have on the server a channel where all Germans can join.
I don't know if there is a restriction of the members in the channels in Retail WoW, but we just don't assume it now.
In addition, we can assume in the long run that the servers are really full. I can imagine that many of the people who are crying now are the people who quit the fastest.
Yeah that's why I decided to go EU servers this time before blizzard announced their plans: the fear of being 'left behind' on a german server.
German and French servers (at least) were mandatory.
No. Not in my eyes.
There will be 100% guilds where only native speakers will be invited.
When you're in a guild, you usually just do things with people in your guild.
Furthermore, everyone will be able to write the following things.
LF1M <Instance> <Role>
LF <any Profession> <any Receipt>
LF ONLY <ANY LANGUAGE> SPEAKING GUILD
Btw. there is also the possible to create channels for example:
/join German
And then you have on the server a channel where all Germans can join.
I don't know if there is a restriction of the members in the channels in Retail WoW, but we just don't assume it now.
Basically you just detailed what I said about communities being formed...
By the way, being in a guild doesn't (and shouldn't) prevent you from doing dungeons, Bgs and more in PU, because it's a great way to meet new people. And to have to communicate in English in Classic will piss me off. Just like a ton of people given the posts and petitions.
German official post at 5 200 replies : https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/de/wow/t/wow-classic-struktur-der-europaeischen-realms/34048
English official post at 2 800 replies :
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-european-realms-structure/56694
They just cannot stick with their idea of English servers for all.
EU servers were made for UK and people wanting to play on it. (Also for people forced to play on EU because they are not enough to have located servers).
On the other hand, Germans, French, Spanish are entitled to have located servers given the amount of players speaking these langages.
They have opened located servers in Vanilla (or BC for Spain I think), why the hell can't they do that for Classic. It's not like they will need 30 servers per region for Classic...
tl:dr You're happy with EU servers, great, go play on it. The majority isn't pleased though.
(...) but when they chat in general in another language then english, it pushes my buttons.
Lets hope your buttons are rock-solid... because i think they will be pushed a lot! ;)
in private servers which are made up of everyone internationally, usually the playerbase themselves are quite good at enforcing the english-only in global chat rules. albeit sometimes harshly, and all it takes is a GM to come on and remind people its english or they would face consequences.
as a sidenote im wondering if its going to be a thing on classic realms that there'll be player-made global channels like pservs have had all this time. because if it does there would easily be made global_en, global_es, etc etc for the different languages. therefore you wouldn't have much of a problem of seeing shit you dont understand in the chat because people would keep to their own channels