I didn't buy WoW copies. I bought Diablo 2 battlechests usually to get access to the forums.
That makes no sense. You can't post on the blizzard WoW forums without an active WoW subscription.
TBC shares a lot in common with retail. Classic does not.
Hahahaha no. Sooooo wrong. If all of WoW history were to be divided into two major periods, "stuff more similar to classic than to BfA" versus "stuff more similar to BfA than to classic", then the dividing line is very obviously between MoP and Warlords. It was that first stat squish, the use of a bronze dragon to flip between pre-WoD and post-WoD versions of the Blasted Lands, the gating of the new continent behind a single-player scenario, and the sudden and total irrelevance of professions and all level 1-90 content that marks the point when all the bad ideas that had been building up over the years fully metastasized all at once.
BC was just Classic with a bunch of stuff added.
You didn't need a WoW account to post back then.
Burning Crusade and the expansions share a lot in common.
- End-game focused
- Flying mounts
- 7 zone continent replaces the old world
- Neutral capital city
- Arena
- multiple dungeon difficulties
- Gear divide. PvP and PvE gear are now separate due to Resilience
- Classes available on all factions. Paladin/shaman
- Homogenous class design
- PvE Gear vendors
And much much more. TBC is played just like BFA in 2019.
Honestly if people want to chuck rocks in the sand I say let them have it. My enjoyment of a game isn't affected by what people ask for as long as they don't ask for changes in that game in particular.
Honestly if people want to chuck rocks in the sand I say let them have it. My enjoyment of a game isn't affected by what people ask for as long as they don't ask for changes in that game in particular.
Likewise - but my enjoyment of the forums is affected by the same beaten old horse of a subject that is Classic+ advocacy reappearing every day.
As long as "future" expansions come in separate servers, I'm ok with TBC (and hopefully we'll get Wrath later).
I'm also ok with Classic+ and rebalancing in the future.
@Knoll, as an avid player since the original Vanilla, I have seen the good and bad. Blizzard does care about its fan base and does take into account compared to other MMORPGS on PC. Everyone has opinions but you shouldnt knock people for liking expansions. That's saying hey you like Destiny but dont get expansions because they suck. I agree some aspects of each expansion are were bad but a lot of good came from them too. I've meet a lot of people online and even met several in RL. I've chatted with my friends about how cool it would be if Blizzard relaunched Wow Vanilla v.2. Once they did, I was worried about all the updates of every day almost for like 30+ of server maintenance. I get the queues but they are handling that with more servers.
Look, I got into WoW due to Warcraft games especially 3. I dreamed of the day I could be like Illidan and got my wish. I dreamed of different dungeons and raids of which especially in TBC was phenomenal. I wanted to have my own Stronghold as well as Shipyard. Yes, I know it killed the economy a bit, but for someone who started WoW at 20 years old and was in the Navy stationed in Japan, my friends back home and new friends I met online kept in touch.
Honestly, I don't tell people off but you had some good points but also some crappy ones.
1. Vanilla or any MMORPG is going to be grindy. If you dont want that , then play Fort Nite or Candy Crush.
2. TBC had great lore as well as dungeons and such, you're crazy for thinking not so.
3. If you dont like it, stop blasting it and others for likening or even loving this concept of them bringing back classics of when they had a lot of balances on a certain version.
4. If you're so against WoW then get the F off and go annoy a bunch of other players
in that game in particular.
5. Thank you and have a great day.
Puzzles aka Elinkz,
U.S. Navy Veteran
@Knoll, as an avid player since the original Vanilla, I have seen the good and bad. Blizzard does care about its fan base and does take into account compared to other MMORPGS on PC. Everyone has opinions but you shouldnt knock people for liking expansions. That's saying hey you like Destiny but dont get expansions because they suck. I agree some aspects of each expansion are were bad but a lot of good came from them too. I've meet a lot of people online and even met several in RL. I've chatted with my friends about how cool it would be if Blizzard relaunched Wow Vanilla v.2. Once they did, I was worried about all the updates of every day almost for like 30+ of server maintenance. I get the queues but they are handling that with more servers.
Look, I got into WoW due to Warcraft games especially 3. I dreamed of the day I could be like Illidan and got my wish. I dreamed of different dungeons and raids of which especially in TBC was phenomenal. I wanted to have my own Stronghold as well as Shipyard. Yes, I know it killed the economy a bit, but for someone who started WoW at 20 years old and was in the Navy stationed in Japan, my friends back home and new friends I met online kept in touch.
Honestly, I don't tell people off but you had some good points but also some crappy ones.
1. Vanilla or any MMORPG is going to be grindy. If you dont want that , then play Fort Nite or Candy Crush.
2. TBC had great lore as well as dungeons and such, you're crazy for thinking not so.
3. If you dont like it, stop blasting it and others for likening or even loving this concept of them bringing back classics of when they had a lot of balances on a certain version.
4. If you're so against WoW then get the F off and go annoy a bunch of other players
in that game in particular.
5. Thank you and have a great day.
Puzzles aka Elinkz,
U.S. Navy Veteran
The truth hurts sometimes.
If you're so against WoW then get the F off and go annoy a bunch of other players
in that game in particular.
Thankfully Gnoll has a 7 day ban for being incessantly annoying about the same topics over and over. The dude needs a break and reality check. Unfortunately I think he will be using these 7 days to formulate the next thread about why expansions suck, but how his ridiculous ideas for classic+ will work much better.
When you find out he has been banned from the WoW forums 20 times and buys Diablo battlechests to make more accounts to circumvent that, you know he has some serious and unresolved issues.
If you're so against WoW then get the F off and go annoy a bunch of other players
in that game in particular.
Thankfully Gnoll has a 7 day ban for being incessantly annoying about the same topics over and over. The dude needs a break and reality check. Unfortunately I think he will be using these 7 days to formulate the next thread about why expansions suck, but how his ridiculous ideas for classic+ will work much better.
When you find out he has been banned from the WoW forums 20 times and buys Diablo battlechests to make more accounts to circumvent that, you know he has some serious and unresolved issues.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! I fucking love you Selexin . We have 7 days to compose ourselves and take a mental break before he attacks. Prepare yourselves.
I'm actually shocked with how lenient moderation has been with some of these guys. Duki, Monarch and Gnoll have had free reign to go full blown retard for months on end. Significantly decreased overall post quality.
"The reign of the Gnoll" could actually make a good title for a fantasy book :D
I'm actually shocked with how lenient moderation has been with some of these guys. Duki, Monarch and Gnoll have had free reign to go full blown retard for months on end. Significantly decreased overall post quality.
People should have free reign to express their opinions, however unpopular they may be. That's what forums are for: discussion. Gnoll wasn't banned because he was annoying or had low 'post quality' but because he couldn't keep his ideas to one location and kept on making new threads which he was warned about.
People should have free reign to express their opinions, however unpopular they may be. That's what forums are for: discussion. Gnoll wasn't banned because he was annoying or had low 'post quality' but because he couldn't keep his ideas to one location and kept on making new threads which he was warned about.
The same logic could be applied to Dukis posts that spam the same videos repeatedly... Over and over and over... The same logic could/should be applied to Monarchs posts, he often creates several new threads within a 5 min time span, all of which are spammy, none of which are quality. Though they each post terribly in their own way, it is all the same in the end in my eyes. Just my 2 cents.
People should have free reign to express their opinions, however unpopular they may be. That's what forums are for: discussion. Gnoll wasn't banned because he was annoying or had low 'post quality' but because he couldn't keep his ideas to one location and kept on making new threads which he was warned about.
The same logic could be applied to Dukis posts that spam the same videos repeatedly... Over and over and over... The same logic could/should be applied to Monarchs posts, he often creates several new threads within a 5 min time span, all of which are spammy, none of which are quality. Though they each post terribly in their own way, it is all the same in the end in my eyes. Just my 2 cents.
What logic? I didn’t say shit about logic, stop with the strawman argument lmao. I didn’t say anything about duki, and he has always asked me about creating new threads and actually been okay to deal with - do not strawman him into this just because you don’t agree with him.
I didn’t say anything about BM either, again, strawmanned in by you. BM makes topics which are usually varied in subject and thought provoking. Just because you disagree with him and have an opinion about his posts doesn’t mean he should be banned.
This is why people like you should never be mods, because you would just ban everyone you dislike in the belief that you’re making the place better somehow by removing unwanted voices.
Love the transparancy you display here teebling; keep it up.
What logic? I didn’t say shit about logic, stop with the strawman argument lmao. I didn’t say anything about duki, and he has always asked me about creating new threads and actually been okay to deal with - do not strawman him into this just because you don’t agree with him.
I think these people are the same. I think Duki spamming the same videos, 20 times on a thread and derailing valuable conversations is just as disruptive as repeating the same topics like Gnoll. These actions are similar / the same. Monarch creates mutliple threads in short succession and spams the site with useless, low effort posts. Yet Gnoll was banned for 7 days for posting the same repetitive garbage. All 3 of these posting behaviors have the same outcome... Repetitive, spammy, low quality trash that reduces the overall quality of the forum. This is not a strawman, this is drawing attention to the fact that moderation is not administered in the same way consistently. This is also drawing attention to the fact that these three users have very similar behaviors.
For example, often times threads or posts are ghost removed. We have seen numerous instances of this in the past... Some of the more problematic members post bannable content, yet their posts are deleted and nothing is said, only for them to continue posting useless garbage immediately after. Most notably user Rayaleith posted numerous bannable posts and those were stealth removed, removing other posts attached and nothing was said. I just find severe inconsistencies with moderation on the site.
I agree with your decision to ban Gnoll. But if this is your stance, the same logic should be applied to the other two to maintain consistency. I'm not bringing up Duki or Monarch to distract from the topic, nor am I introducing these two in an effort to "win" a debate. I find it silly that one person gets banned for 7 days for behaving in a socially retarded manner, while the other two do not. I dont like Gnoll. I am glad he is out of our hair for 7 days, but why doesnt this same moderation get applied to the other two? They are the same.
This is why people like you should never be mods, because you would just ban everyone you dislike in the belief that you’re making the place better somehow by removing unwanted voices.
I have never asked for moderation, nor would I have accepted it if offered. We have had previous chats about your application of moderation on the site, and our values do not align, therefore we would have a lot of tension if we were to moderate together.
This topic has gone severely off-topic.
Let's all just drop it and move on.