I'm kind of on the fence about this - whilst TBC, WOTLK legacy servers, separate from the Classic server, would be cool - all the players would move on too and that means not many would be left on the vanilla one...
Blizzard said they wanna reproduce authentic, though BLIZZARD experience. That means they want to make Classic as pure as possible but they still need to deliver a game that reflects their contemporary approach and quality of game design. They cannot simply reproduce exactly the same game as the technology and game industry itself has evolved over the years significantly. By that I mean that it will most likely be some kind of a ''Frankenpatch'', polished Vanilla.
"Polished vanilla" is actually a good term to use :smile: I can only hope, that raising the game to blizzard standard, which obviously exists, would not make it feel different.
"Polished vanilla" is actually a good term to use :smile: I can only hope, that raising the game to blizzard standard, which obviously exists, would not make it feel different.
I firmly believe that is something Blizzard is gonna stick with. I think it can retain it's feel, atmosphere if they will follow what they stated at Blizzcon '' authentic, though BLIZZARD experience''. How they are gonna do it is yet in the stars but I believe they can make it.
Actually, I hear quite a lot of people uttering the mysterious 1.13 from time to time. I wonder what is the story it could be?
Let's consider patch 1.13 is announced well after the 1.12 and Naxxramas being already cleared by most of the guilds, even the casual ones. Kel'thuzad is down. The Dark Portal does not open. We all remain level 60. What's next?
Actually, I hear quite a lot of people uttering the mysterious 1.13 from time to time. I wonder what is the story it could be?
Let's consider patch 1.13 is announced well after the 1.12 and Naxxramas being already cleared by most of the guilds, even the casual ones. Kel'thuzad is down. The Dark Portal does not open. We all remain level 60. What's next?
They could access Hyjal and other Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms only zones, open some raids such as Grim Batol. Dunno, I personally doubt this would happen. Making a different sort of time-line just sounds so unlikely to me, but I may be wrong. Theoretically it might be better for Classic in a long-run to update it even after Naxx for maintaining the servers populated. Maybe if they see a success in Classic, they will revaluate the game concept and come up with something completely new.
I'm kind of on the fence about this - whilst TBC, WOTLK legacy servers, separate from the Classic server, would be cool - all the players would move on too and that means not many would be left on the vanilla one...
Yeah, I'd prefer it if Blizzard only released Classic WoW (as in the vanilla game that was released in 2004) only. And then, perhaps further on down the line a few years after release, they could ask if the community want The Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King, too.
Since they announced classic wow, I thought that they should continue with patches and new updates separated from the original line. As Faendor says: "Maybe if they see a success with Classic, they will revaluate the game concept and come up with something completely new". This, in my personal opinion, would be the nirvana for me.
Maybe they invent something strange that resembles Marvel multiverses. In this timeline or universe the lich king remained in a permanent coma and not hibernating so WOTLK will never happen.
or... Thrall never reconnects with the elements, so he does not transform into green Jesus and becomes a bloodthirsty leader because the elements left him and he does not listen to anyone else but his hammer. (?)
The only thing I ask for from TBC are the arenas and from WOTLK wintergrasp, obviously with a new and molded concept to adapt it to the classic environment.
The concept of the garrison had a great potential that was not exploited in wod and later, it even ended up being an aberration; perhaps with the right approach I think would be an invaluable addition to the game.
The concept of the garrison had a great potential that was not exploited in wod and later, it even ended up being an aberration; perhaps with the right approach I think would be an invaluable addition to the game.
Just some fun trivia - as I was going through the original .MPQ data files for the vanilla client I found a directory called 'Player Housing'. They were experimenting with this in the wow alpha/beta but it never came to fruition. Agreed that it could have been implemented better and it never really reached it's full potential!
I was always more interested in the cut content of vanilla (Hellfire, Emerald dream, etc) than their later implementations personally. There's a lot of things that could be expanded upon without require an entire expansion.
Classic, with as little changes as possible, first then we can see about the others. They have to do this one right before I can have hope for TBC.
I would advise you not to have big hopes for Blizzard. The company is not taking a good direction. Classic wont save WOW or Blizzard. Soon it will be the time for WOW to retire and make room for new titles.
I would want any post vanilla content they wanted to release provided it stayed 40-man content.
But as a more specific idea, the Dragon Isles, Uldum, Grim Batol, Hellfire Peninsula, the Black Citadel, Karazhan, Gilneas, Dalaran, and other content originally planned for vanilla would be a great place to start.
I agree with many others I've seen talking about more horizontal than vertical progression, so I'd like to see naxx gear etc be the preraid gear for the next content released. There's no need for gear and leveling to scale so insanely that it makes previous content not only easy but absolutely irrelevant/soloable.
I don't want to see a verbatim rerelease of tbc & wotlk but if it was reworked to be 40 man focused and scale more gradually I'd be in heaven. I would also prefer the vanilla classes to be it--no dks and keep pallys ally only and shamans as horde. I feel that the additional classes started to vitiate the other class roles and their interaction in raids while also contributing to the creep towards every class feeling mostly like reskins.
Along that line, one thing I really don't want to see is symmetry in class or faction balance. That has translated to retail feeling bland and reskinny between dps, between tanks, between healers, and between ally and horde.
The asymmetry in balance and factions is part of the magic of vanilla and if classic continues past naxx (which I hope and pray that it does) I hope it and 40 man raiding is preserved.
If there was one thing I'd love to see about Vanilla being developed into 1.13 would be to hear the story of those who were left behind in Azeroth during the events of TBC.
But yeah, I would wholeheartedly want to see TBC come to life, even if it meant the death of what I love most - which is WPvP. I started playing in TBC I'd love to go back and redeem myself by clearing all the PvE content.
The asymmetry in balance and factions is part of the magic of vanilla and if classic continues past naxx (which I hope and pray that it does) I hope it and 40 man raiding is preserved.
Exactly man. Imbalance in classes also grows a healthy meta where the lazy cookie-cutter build players can then be taken advantage of by less well known strategies and builds.
Kind of surprised though at how many people are interested in a TBC expansion already - let's see how they handle vanilla first!
I would first like to see them do Vanilla and BC (hopefully) with no changes, Once those are complete they can leave servers for vanilla with no changes and then start a new progression realm where they have some devs create content for 1.13+ etc, I feel it would be interesting to see some new content in a 14+ year old game!