Why Phase 3? Do you think AV and Warsong Gulch will really be that appealing? I guess BWL is being released, but as I said, raid content only lasts a few hours per week.
For me WSG isn't that appealing except for the gear maybe if the leggings are in. AV on the other hand... I love that battleground. The mixture of large and small scale PvP ( tower's and chokepoints) including PVE parts like the final bosses or lieutenants is just awesome in my opinion. Also most classes get something nice there, even if it's just a cheaper epic mount.
BWL is also very interesting and I doubt that it will be on farm as fast as MC, Vaelastrasz and the dumb Doge with a bad breath will see to that...
Um, is MurlocShapeshifter actually RedridgeGnoll? Something seems fishy, and it isn't his Murloc breath.
Why Phase 3? Do you think AV and Warsong Gulch will really be that appealing? I guess BWL is being released, but as I said, raid content only lasts a few hours per week.
For me WSG isn't that appealing except for the gear maybe if the leggings are in. AV on the other hand... I love that battleground. The mixture of large and small scale PvP ( tower's and chokepoints) including PVE parts like the final bosses or lieutenants is just awesome in my opinion. Also most classes get something nice there, even if it's just a cheaper epic mount.
BWL is also very interesting and I doubt that it will be on farm as fast as MC, Vaelastrasz and the dumb Doge with a bad breath will see to that...
We aren't getting the original Alterac Valley. I am not sure which version we are getting.
Just got done with farming pre-bis and have a few T1 items (and my T2 helm, YES!).
Currently still farming gold for epic mount, doing some fishing and herbalism, AH stuff, preparing for DM farms with two buddies, grinding for Alchemy recipes, helping guildies gear up, etc. I'm also slowly leveling an Undead Mage alt with the name Magicmike, which I'm more than content with.
Plenty to do if you want to enjoy the game to the fullest.
Stop looking at Classic like it's something you need to complete. Look at it like it's something to enjoy, and you'll find fun things to do everywhere in the world.
Why Phase 3? Do you think AV and Warsong Gulch will really be that appealing? I guess BWL is being released, but as I said, raid content only lasts a few hours per week.
I don't understand what you want from the game then.
1) raids only take a few hours a week, who cares.
2) are battlegrounds really that appealing?
Thats plus wPvP is all the content at 60. If you aren't bothered about raiding or PvP you are going to be bored. You have the added benefit now that you know exactly what all the content is thats coming over the next couple of years. If you're bored now and not looking forward to any of the other content, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, this is not the game for you...
If you're bored now and not looking forward to any of the other content, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, this is not the game for you...
Here is the part where redridge...ugh, sorry, murloc goes on to describe how we can improve world PvP with loot chests and objectives, and also add horizontal PvE progression to help flesh out the content droughts. Not only that, but we will be told how he helped 'develop' vanilla (beta tester?)... we've been down this road quite a few times.
If you don't like classic, there is a very simple and easy solution. Figure it out.
Retail is waiting patiently for those of you that don't know how to play Classic and enjoy it. Guess all those speed leveling youtube videos forgot to show you that there is so much more to the game than blasting through to level 60.
Retail is waiting patiently for those of you that don't know how to play Classic and enjoy it. Guess all those speed leveling youtube videos forgot to show you that there is so much more to the game than blasting through to level 60.
Speed Kills
Just got done with farming pre-bis and have a few T1 items (and my T2 helm, YES!).
Currently still farming gold for epic mount, doing some fishing and herbalism, AH stuff, preparing for DM farms with two buddies, grinding for Alchemy recipes, helping guildies gear up, etc. I'm also slowly leveling an Undead Mage alt with the name Magicmike, which I'm more than content with.
Plenty to do if you want to enjoy the game to the fullest.
Correct, lots to do if you do more than just level to 60
Playing classic and not enjoing raiding, world pvp, or Battlegrounds, is like playing FIFA and not liking soccer, or Madden NFL and not liking football..
If you're not into that stuff, there is a lot more to do, but the game is not focused towards that. You got to sort of set your own goals.
Maybe classic is not for you.
Your way of thinking is what got us to ask for a classic version.
Blizzard listening to this small but so damn LOUD voices asking for changes everytime they're bored got us LFG/LFR, flying mounts, portals everywhere, transmogs and transformed WoW into a giant circus.
Feeling bored with the first version of the game? Go to retail.
This is like asking for the season1 of a TVseries just for 2 months later, requesting that the character from season7 needs to be put into season1. Make up your mind.
Being so defensive about WoW is what lead to retail. Statements like "You are bored, therefore this game isn't for you." Players who chugged the Kool-Aid and didn't hold Blizzard accountable for bad game design decisions over the years.
Classic WoW is a fast tracked version of Vanilla. The itemization, mechanics, and patch level are all sped up. Content updates are what keep the playerbase stable, that is why Blizzard has major expansion releases or patch cycles. That is why they are releasing Dire Maul already. I consider Classic WoW the best version of the game, but it does suffer from a lack content in its later phases. I think some players ignore just how many players have already reached the endgame. Level 60, Epic Mount, BiS, Raid Gear, etc.. The game is just so much faster now.
I have no doubt that Phase 2 and 3 will be highly popular. However, I am concerned about the state of the game in later Phases. Once you get your fill of Battlegrounds and raiding, what else is there to do in later phases? More raiding with AQ/Naxx? More epics so you can replace your epics? This when the population will likely start to tank. I speak from experience, considering I quit Vanilla in early 2006 due to boredom and lack of content. The only thing Blizzard added to the game was more raids. It was really unfortunate.
Nowhere have I suggested anything about flying mounts or portals, since those features shrink the world and hasten the gameplay even more. One of my withstanding criticisms of Classic WoW is how Blizzard made so much of then content irrelevant once players reach level 60. You have a 30 zone world with two continents, yet the endgame playerbase is confined to only a few of these zones. (Plaguelands, Silithus, Un'Goro, Azshara, Blackrock Mountain, Winterspring). Blizzard basically made the rest of Azeroth irrelevant. Once you outleveled a zone, there was little reason to return there. The zones in Classic are way too linear, and this ultimately shrunk the world.
Why weren't there level 60 quest chains that took you back to Hillsbrad and Alterac Mountains? Why were zones like the Hinterlands or Tanaris pointless once you outleveled them? Why was most of Azeroth basically discarded once players outleveled it. Most of the zones became places you just fly over. You used to have to travel to Alterac, Arathi, and Ashenvale to do Battlegrounds. It brought players out of the city and back into the world. This is exactly what Classic needed, more reasons to revisit lower level zones. The longer Classic goes on, the emptier the world will feel as more players reach level 60. The failure of the game was the over-reliance on endgame instanced content, especially when there was this open world to adventure in.
Why weren't there level 60 quest chains that took you back to Hillsbrad and Alterac Mountains? Why were zones like the Hinterlands or Tanaris pointless once you outleveled them?
I'm not sure it's a good idea to funnel level 60 characters back into lower level zones on PVP servers. It's already a mess trying to quest outside on my server which has a heavy horde population bias as it is, and that's with zones primarily filled with similar leveled characters. If there were legitimate reasons for level 60s to start roaming around doing stuff in the level 20 zones, everybody who didn't speed level to 60 would get roflstomped into oblivion by all the enemy 60's who were questing next to them.
This also doesn't seem to make sense on PVE servers either. Content for level 60 characters implies appropriate level mobs for level 60 characters to interact with, which implies swaths of level 60 mobs intermixed throughout level 20 zones. As much as I like Stitches and Mor'Ladim in Duskwood, there is a big difference between a couple of mobs 10 levels higher than a player starts a zone for zone flavor vs entire regions of mobs 40 levels higher than when a character starts a zone.
For people complaining of boredom: If you want a fresh experience, try playing the game alongside a brand new player and doing things at their pace. This time around my wife and I have been playing, and she is experiencing things for the first time. I have a 30ish druid I play exclusively with her and I am having a blast. It's way more fun than my nearly 50 priest I play when I solo.
I really cannot believe people are complaining asking for the phases to be delivered quicker. It's highly likely that this is the very last time you'll ever get to play this game with these phases, as it was back then, with this many new players. Once all the phases come out, unless they do server resets you'll never get to experience the rush to 60 on a fresh server with fresh players again unless you go back to private servers, where you're only going to play with other veterans.
I have done plenty of playing on established servers where the low-level zones are devoid of players, and it SUCKS. I have been taking great pains to stay with the pack and have been loving the instant groups for out-of-the-way instances like Uldaman or Blackfathom Deeps.
Honestly, with the exception of the speedrunners, the people who rushed to 60 to do the same thing they've been doing for 15 years really did themselves a disservice. This was the last time you'll have to capture that nostalgia, and you picked the wrong wave to surf.
For people complaining of boredom: If you want a fresh experience, try playing the game alongside a brand new player and doing things at their pace. This time around my wife and I have been playing, and she is experiencing things for the first time. I have a 30ish druid I play exclusively with her and I am having a blast. It's way more fun than my nearly 50 priest I play when I solo.
I really cannot believe people are complaining asking for the phases to be delivered quicker. It's highly likely that this is the very last time you'll ever get to play this game with these phases, as it was back then, with this many new players. Once all the phases come out, unless they do server resets you'll never get to experience the rush to 60 on a fresh server with fresh players again unless you go back to private servers, where you're only going to play with other veterans.
I have done plenty of playing on established servers where the low-level zones are devoid of players, and it SUCKS. I have been taking great pains to stay with the pack and have been loving the instant groups for out-of-the-way instances like Uldaman or Blackfathom Deeps.
Honestly, with the exception of the speedrunners, the people who rushed to 60 to do the same thing they've been doing for 15 years really did themselves a disservice. This was the last time you'll have to capture that nostalgia, and you picked the wrong wave to surf.
This is the whole point that I am making. The strength of Classic is the World itself. All of the zones are populated, because players actually have to level through them. The issue is that eventually more and more players reach level 60, and most of the zones in the game become obsolete. There needed to be more reasons and incentives for max level players to return to these zones.