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(@anonymous_1607109007)
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Hi everyone, nice forum.

Now that the hype has died out perhaps we can have some serious discussion about the reality of Classic being a success:

In my opinion,
Blizzard are riding an industry wide wave of nostalgia for a quick buck to be made by releasing Classic
We will receive an incredibly buggy version worse than it was at launch
The excitement of slow levelling and difficult to access content will wear off after most reach level 40
Prospective release date still unknown, by then will be competing with Pantheon and others
Will probably require a separate subscription to play, cutting community on live in half
Players will see this for what it is: revisiting old memories for a short burst and then leaving forever

Change my mind

 
Posted : 09/06/2018 4:14 am
(@syturio)
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ill be competing with Pantheon and others

Phanteon is dead on release, mark my words.

Sometimes i look at a game and think to my self: "yep, this will fail 100%", and then it fails.
Blackdesert... Tera... Bless Online... Blade & Soul... and many others.

Phanteon has realistic, unoriginal graphics, that's a turn off for many people, it looks the same as all others Unity/Unreal Engine games.
Phanteon animations are SUPER lazy & low-quality.

Phanteon designers are really amateur, everything from UI to Website looks too amateurish and boring.
There is almost no PvP in Phanteon, that alone will be a no-go for a big chunk of players.

I want Phanteon to succeed, but honestly i have no faith.

 
Posted : 09/06/2018 10:09 am
(@teebling)
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Hi everyone, nice forum.

Now that the hype has died out perhaps we can have some serious discussion about the reality of Classic being a success:

In my opinion,
Blizzard are riding an industry wide wave of nostalgia for a quick buck to be made by releasing Classic
We will receive an incredibly buggy version worse than it was at launch
The excitement of slow levelling and difficult to access content will wear off after most reach level 40
Prospective release date still unknown, by then will be competing with Pantheon and others
Will probably require a separate subscription to play, cutting community on live in half
Players will see this for what it is: revisiting old memories for a short burst and then leaving forever

Change my mind

Some good points raised and good to see some different opinions raised here.

That said, of course I wholeheartedly disagree :smile:

As for the ‘nostalgia wave’ - the existence and great success of private servers, as pointed out by [mention]yobuko[/mention], is evidence that the need for retail servers has existed for a long time and is not merely a trend or ‘fad’.

Sure it will be buggy but bugs get fixed. It’s the most commonplace thing in any release nowadays. Unlike back in the day of cartridge and CD games (N64/PS1 anyone?) where games had to be as perfect as possible before release, even back in 2004 they could update to fix stuff. Why is this such a big issue?

If anything, by 40 I think people will be ramping up playtime as they start to hit the beginning of the end game. Sure content is harder to access, but I think that added teamwork is a big draw for people to try Classic anyway.

How can you complain vanilla WoW to a new wave MMO like phanteon? Vanilla WoW proved itself as the most popular online game of its time - phant is just concept art and vapour right now.

Yes, a separate sub is something I can definitely see Blizzard doing, knowing them. Those Activison shareholders will try and milk it for everything its got and consider it like a DLC or something. This is very worrying because live players will maybe sub for one month but certainly won’t keep two subs going for any longer than that. Fair point.

 
Posted : 11/06/2018 10:30 am
(@teebling)
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Hi everyone, nice forum.

Now that the hype has died out perhaps we can have some serious discussion about the reality of Classic being a success:

In my opinion,
Blizzard are riding an industry wide wave of nostalgia for a quick buck to be made by releasing Classic
We will receive an incredibly buggy version worse than it was at launch
The excitement of slow levelling and difficult to access content will wear off after most reach level 40
Prospective release date still unknown, by then will be competing with Pantheon and others
Will probably require a separate subscription to play, cutting community on live in half
Players will see this for what it is: revisiting old memories for a short burst and then
Change my mind

Are you seriously comparing a meme game like Phanteon with vanilla world of warcraft? :lol:
3/10 for effort but that was a nice touch

 
Posted : 16/06/2018 10:13 am
(@sierick)
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Considering that we now know that they will have a shared sub at the bare minimum it will be something to play when live is having content droughts

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 11:38 am
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wow, this thread is a pearl nice find :o

1 year old, and now the guy who made this thread should response :p

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 11:48 am
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It's funny how so many people claimed this was just an attempted nostalgia kick. Now seeing all the streamers who never played vanilla talking about how much better a game this is compared to retail it becomes evident that Classic will be everything those of us who played vanilla already knew. Classic, in it's 1.12 state is a far superior MMO than the current retail version. Not as flashy but when something is legitimately good people will gravitate towards it.

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 2:09 pm
(@escalotes)
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This thread is the epitome of "Bitch you thought"

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 2:18 pm
(@latsiv)
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wow, this thread is a pearl nice find :o

1 year old, and now the guy who made this thread should response :p

let us also see your predictions from a year ago so we can compare :razz:

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 3:08 pm
(@stfuppercut)
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This thread did not age well for OP...

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 3:09 pm
(@shyneur)
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Holy shit, I red without noticing that it was some bumping from 1 year ago hahaha

Didn't aged well indeed :v

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 3:48 pm
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wow, this thread is a pearl nice find :o

1 year old, and now the guy who made this thread should response :p

let us also see your predictions from a year ago so we can compare :razz:

To be fair, you only had to look at the success of private servers to note that the hype was nothing to be scoffed at.

And the separate subscription thing is laughable, no-one in their right mind thought it would require a separate sub. IIRC the consensus a year ago was that it would be a shared sub.

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 4:52 pm
(@gallow)
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That is some mighty necro bumb if I've ever seen one :D

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 5:14 pm
(@jon-bloodspray)
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To be fair, you only had to look at the success of private servers to note that the hype was nothing to be scoffed at.

Lol, no shit. Honestly I think a big part of Blizzard deciding to do this is so they have a stronger leg to stand on when they try and shut down private servers.

 
Posted : 11/06/2019 6:01 pm
(@froststeel)
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Well, baked.. Did you change your mind?

 
Posted : 12/06/2019 5:16 am
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