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(@pippina)
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After spending a good chunk of time on the stress test this weekend - holy shit, the graphics already pretty much are in 'WoW Classic Remastered' territory. Yeah we still have the old models and textures, but the modern game engine brings so many graphical improvements that it's like a brand new game. The shadows, water, view distance, anti-aliasing... everything adds up in little ways. I spent half the time this weekend gawking at how good everything looked in spite of all the old textures and low polygon models.

Yeah, I much prefer my gnome with the new character models. But Classic as a whole already is so far improved from what I'm used to from private servers and it's pretty impressive what they've done.

 
Posted : 12/08/2019 12:45 am
(@rinkusan)
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holy shit, the graphics already pretty much are in 'WoW Classic Remastered' territory

In order to go to "true" Classic graphics, they added a button on the bottom left of the graphics options interface. It will set your graphics preset to 3 and look pretty much like Vanilla looked.

 
Posted : 12/08/2019 9:15 am
(@pippina)
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holy shit, the graphics already pretty much are in 'WoW Classic Remastered' territory

In order to go to "true" Classic graphics, they added a button on the bottom left of the graphics options interface. It will set your graphics preset to 3 and look pretty much like Vanilla looked.

Yeah, I saw that too. That gives it another perspective - classic graphical settings is preset 3/10. When you turn it up to 10/10, you got you your WoW Reforged graphics. Just without the new character models, textures, animations, hit boxes, updated heights, etc.

 
Posted : 12/08/2019 9:35 am
(@gensei)
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I literally have zero clue why anyone would vote to prohibit the new models as an option.

For me, I'd toggle it depending on what race I'm playing. I've historically played trolls, so I'd 100% keep the old models. But if I played, say, undead or dwarf, then 100% the WoD models.

 
Posted : 13/08/2019 3:37 pm
(@ariba)
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They should honestly just have the best of both worlds in the game. If people want the new models then they should be able to, it literally doesn't affect anyone in any way possible. Animations and effects are arguable, but as far as regular models go, it shouldn't be a problem.

I remember seeing the #nochanges bandwagoners crying about the idea of having both new and old models as a toggleable option, but having slightly better graphics and a Classic graphic option is perfectly fine with them. Blows my mind.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 10:47 am
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My position has always been: when it comes to the basic rules and data governing the behavior of the game world and all the objects within it, there should be no changes. But when it comes to cosmetic, interface, or strictly server-side improvements, up to and including the ability to add collectibles to your bnet account by acquiring them on Classic realms, anything is fair game.
I set my foreground fps to 8 frames, dropped the graphics bar as low as it can go; then whenever I go in a major city I stop moving every 6-8 seconds for a few moments to simulate my computer freezing.

The true 2004 vanilla experience.

We're all going to get the true 2004 vanilla experience this time tomorrow when the servers are crashing and we see 10-hour login queues.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 11:23 am
(@jon-bloodspray)
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No joke, the first computer I played WoW was a Best Buy prebuilt with a 266Hz processor. I bought it a few years earlier because I needed to upgrade to a computer that would run Red Alert 2. When wow came out I'd get a better frame rate if I'd stare at the ground while running, so I never even saw Classic at it's full settings back then. I'll probably start with the Classic setting and then see if I feel like turning it up.

I agree that toggle option for old and new models would be nice. When it comes to technical options like this, I feel like more player choice is always better than less.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 11:35 am
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I dislike most of the new models, but I'm in favor of having the option to toggle it. It might be kinda funky looking with old armor.

I'd only ever consider using it if you had to toggle between the classic graphics for the whole game or updated hd graphics for the whole game, like all the armor and mobs and everything. But since this is pretty likely not going to happen, because even in BFA I think gnolls/kobolds are still the old ugly models, I'm comfortable keeping it to toggle, as I'd only ever use the WoD models for a couple races.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 11:52 am
(@eldritch-scholar)
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I would like the option to enable updated models from retail, it will definitely clash horribly with the old models and textures but I am fine with it and it would not affect the experience of other players.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 1:14 pm
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No joke, the first computer I played WoW was a Best Buy prebuilt with a 266Hz processor. I bought it a few years earlier because I needed to upgrade to a computer that would run Red Alert 2.

Red Alert 2 was released in October 2000. By that time, both AMD and Intel had passed the 1 ghz milestone. Where in the hell would you pick up a 266 mhz part in October of 2000? A history museum?

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 2:09 pm
(@pippina)
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Red Alert 2 was released in October 2000. By that time, both AMD and Intel had passed the 1 ghz milestone. Where in the hell would you pick up a 266 mhz part in October of 2000? A history museum?

The Pentium 2 was just exiting production in 1999...

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 2:16 pm
(@hazen)
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One issue is that I feel it would look really out of place, since all the mobs would still have the old models too.

Honestly, I feel that Classic WoW is somewhat of a preservation of how the game was in 2005, almost a museum piece, and I wouldn't want any changes to that for better or for worse.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 6:21 pm
(@ariba)
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One issue is that I feel it would look really out of place, since all the mobs would still have the old models too.

Honestly, I feel that Classic WoW is somewhat of a preservation of how the game was in 2005, almost a museum piece, and I wouldn't want any changes to that for better or for worse.

Good thing it'd be toggleable so it wouldn't affect you in any way possible.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 7:03 pm
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Red Alert 2 was released in October 2000. By that time, both AMD and Intel had passed the 1 ghz milestone. Where in the hell would you pick up a 266 mhz part in October of 2000? A history museum?

The Pentium 2 was just exiting production in 1999...

...and the last Pentium IIs were clocked at 450 mhz.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 7:45 pm
(@jon-bloodspray)
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No joke, the first computer I played WoW was a Best Buy prebuilt with a 266Hz processor. I bought it a few years earlier because I needed to upgrade to a computer that would run Red Alert 2.

Red Alert 2 was released in October 2000. By that time, both AMD and Intel had passed the 1 ghz milestone. Where in the hell would you pick up a 266 mhz part in October of 2000? A history museum?

Yeah, I remembered this wrong. I think it was an AMD Athlon at 1ghz, but it had RAM support at 266hz. Something like that. We're talking about a PC I bought almost 20 years ago when I had no idea how the things worked.

 
Posted : 25/08/2019 7:50 pm
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