Confirmed: graphics toggle, no addons at launch and more… – Page 2 – General

teebling · 2019-05-14T14:33:08Z

WoW Classic 27th of August! All the hype.Found a very nice interview on wowhead with the lead engineer and production director of Classic. Heres a summary of the top points from me...Graphics toggle CONFIRMED:We wanted to make sure that you could get the Classic look exactly right if you wanted that, so we have a Classic graphics button option, to make sure you don't see things that weren't in Classic. If you hit that button, it will turn that ground clutter all the way down, with all the objects exactly where they were too. Addons probably not coming at launch:I think we plan to do it, but not sure if we'll have it for launch. We're trying to make sure that API is available, but the timeline for launch we're unsure about.It will be a different one, but I don't know if I would categorize it as completely different. We are starting with our modern codebase, and that includes the modern API, but there are addon APIs that don't make sense for Classic, and in those cases, we're trying to roll things back to reflect how the game behaved back then.Castbars are a good example of this. Everyone remembers that they had a castbar in Classic, but that was a castbar addon, and you couldn't actually query the status except on yourself. So they were all basically guesses as to what was going on. That meant you didn't actually know what spell someone else was casting, or how long it would last--you had to figure it out and guess. As that's gameplay-affecting, we wanted to restore that functionality.In terms of maintaining--for every content release we do for World of Warcraft today, we will change the API pretty regularly. That's not something we plan to do with Classic though. Once that API is defined and out there for the public, it's not something that's going to change. Certainly not at the cadence that the Battle for Azeroth APIs change. Hopefully maintenance won't be too terrible. No old epic mounts (they will all be armored):It is the current vendor mounts for 1.12. We aren't putting back the unarmored mounts. We just talked about this recently internally. We know some people are interested in them, but we don't want to put them in for a limited period of time, because we didn't want to influence people through their first leveling experience. Especially people coming back for the first time. We don't want people to feel like they have to rush. If you want to level slowly and enjoy the journey, you should. That's how I like to play--taking it slow, running every dungeon. Old riding skills confirmed:The modern riding system was introduced in one of the later 1.12 patches, and as we were discussing it, we felt this system was added to prepare the game for Burning Crusade, which had the ability to ride flying mounts.For most of the history of WoW Classic, throughout 2004 and 2005, we had the older mount system. It just felt more authentic to that game, to use the older one instead of one that just laid the groundwork for another expansion. Release dates for each phase decided on a per-phase basis:Probably one-by-one, as Classic continues. We actually don't have them pinned down precisely yet. We're trying to figure it out as we go forward.We want to take a look at the Classic community as it progresses through the content, and determining what seems reasonable.

Sojiro84

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Would have loved AddOns at launch. I want to do every zones quest before moving on.

Guess I will have to backtrack after all.

Posted : 15/05/2019 6:14 am

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The addon thing is huge, Im sure there will be a way for skilled addon creators to make addons during the beta though, or am I wrong?

Posted : 15/05/2019 6:34 am

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The addon thing is huge, Im sure there will be a way for skilled addon creators to make addons during the beta though, or am I wrong?

only possible if they give the api before or in the beta. the rest would be a huge amount of testing with addons that worked with the legion client

Posted : 15/05/2019 9:30 am

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The addon thing is huge, Im sure there will be a way for skilled addon creators to make addons during the beta though, or am I wrong?

only possible if they give the api before or in the beta. the rest would be a huge amount of testing with addons that worked with the legion client

Someone better port Pitbull and Bartender on day one, the OCD demands a hyper-customized minimalistic UI at launch :lol:

Posted : 15/05/2019 9:52 am

IronBrutzler

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Mobhealth and the Statusbar (where you would see the guilds and such because in vanilla you just see the name) thing is a must have for me. Omnicc would be cool too

Posted : 15/05/2019 10:22 am

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Thanks for the update, especially the graphic part =D

Posted : 17/05/2019 8:01 am

Altoholic

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I'm most looking forward to the no addons... :wink:

Posted : 17/05/2019 5:42 pm

IronBrutzler

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I'm most looking forward to the no addons... :wink:

luckly we got the Legion Raid frames. otherwise it would have been a pain

Posted : 18/05/2019 12:25 am

Anonymous

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Some streamers in the beta are already using addons.

Posted : 18/05/2019 8:41 am

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Makes me laugh how nostalgia will make most of us refuse to play the game with anything but classic graphics on our (by that times standards) crazy gaming rigs :lol: . Just wont feel right playing it any other way for me :P .

Posted : 18/05/2019 1:34 pm

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Some streamers in the beta are already using addons.

That is indeed true.
But so far its just Beta, at anypoint blizzard can change it.

Posted : 19/05/2019 7:36 am

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I'm not sure how the "old riding system" was any different, pls esplane

Not sure myself other than when the game first started out if you even touched water while on your mount, you were automatically dismounted. I hope that is not the case with classic.

Posted : 25/06/2019 9:47 am

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I'm not sure how the "old riding system" was any different, pls esplane

Not sure myself other than when the game first started out if you even touched water while on your mount, you were automatically dismounted. I hope that is not the case with classic.

old riding system could also be referring to how didn't automatically dismount when you tried to use your spells or abilities. You'd have to either manually click to mount buff off or have a addon which dismounted you on ability/spell usage.

Posted : 25/06/2019 12:20 pm

Jon Bloodspray

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I'm not sure how the "old riding system" was any different, pls esplane

Not sure myself other than when the game first started out if you even touched water while on your mount, you were automatically dismounted. I hope that is not the case with classic.

old riding system could also be referring to how didn't automatically dismount when you tried to use your spells or abilities. You'd have to either manually click to mount buff off or have a addon which dismounted you on ability/spell usage.

This could also be a reminder that you didn't get riding until lvl 40, and faster mounts at lvl 60. The Chauffeur mount still rubs me the wrong way, even though I use it on alts.

Posted : 25/06/2019 12:33 pm

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The cost structure and functionality of Riding and Mounts was changed in patch 1.12. Prior to that patch, Riding was an ability rather than a secondary Profession, and had only one rank. Each faction had its own riding skill (tiger riding, horse riding, mechanostrider piloting, ram riding) and the cost was 100, available at level 40. Exalted reputation was required to learn cross-faction riding skill, but mounts were BoE and purchasable by anyone. This meant that characters who were PvP rank 3 or higher could pass on the 10% discount directly to other characters by buying the mount for them. This is no longer possible because all mounts are now BoP, and the majority of the cost is built into the Riding skill training (which is no longer faction-specific) rather than the cost of the mount. Note: Exalted reputation is required to buy cross-faction mounts.

https://vanilla-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Mount#Historical_note

this is what they mean by the old riding system, it will be race-specific riding skills

i believe it also means it will be cheap training/expensive mounts (opposite of how it is nowadays)

Posted : 25/06/2019 12:38 pm

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