Just to input a bit from my recent experiences playing on a blizzlike - draw distances were there in Vanilla and for sure they will be there (albeit perhaps in a more modern UI setting) in the Classic client.
Just to input a bit from my recent experiences playing on a blizzlike - draw distances were there in Vanilla and for sure they will be there (albeit perhaps in a more modern UI setting) in the Classic client.
Might have worded that wrong because my brain was phasing out, but I meant the fog, and how much you can see off in the distance (Vanilla/Classic compared to what you can see in modern WoW now.)
I don't know whether that is in or will be in Classic. In retail, you can now see the world tree in Hyjal, in Vanilla you couldn't at all.
Multi-boxing was a definite thing. Our Mage class leader back in the day multi-boxed 5 shamans and would go do pvp with them to great effect and fun. He used software to copy commands between each client.
I actually used to tank and heal Molten Core at the same time on my warrior and wife's priest just by clicking between two windows (we were past bwl so gear made this a bit easier in terms of actions per minute needed).
And, in terms of hardware, towards the very end of vanilla wow (november/december 2006), my roommate and I both upgraded to dual gtx 8800 graphics cards, and I remember us running 4 open windowed copies of wow at the same time just to see how awesome the graphics cards were.
Multi-boxing was a definite thing. Our Mage class leader back in the day multi-boxed 5 shamans and would go do pvp with them to great effect and fun. He used software to copy commands between each client.
I actually used to tank and heal Molten Core at the same time on my warrior and wife's priest just by clicking between two windows (we were past bwl so gear made this a bit easier in terms of actions per minute needed).
And, in terms of hardware, towards the very end of vanilla wow (november/december 2006), my roommate and I both upgraded to dual gtx 8800 graphics cards, and I remember us running 4 open windowed copies of wow at the same time just to see how awesome the graphics cards were.
As I recall it, vanilla wow client didnt support crossfire or SLI in windowed mode though at the time, so chances are you only had actual GPU load on one of the cards and the other was idle. They even had issue letting the game client utilize several CPU cores since it simply didnt exist when the game engine was build and was brand new around its release.
Anyone else used to dabble in this?
I used to dual box in cataclysm, both shaman and hunter, but those where 2 of the same class and super easy to set up.. This time around I would probably want to dual box 2 different characters, considering that will give me better options for farming and running my other alts through dungeons.
Anyone have done this in / on Vanilla wow servers?
Thanks for moving it Teebling, somehow it did not come up when I searched :)
I will be checking this weekend on a repack, should prove useful regarding class choice and setup as I am sure Blizzard will allow multiboxing in Classic considering they have always allowed it.
I multiboxed through the end of Burning Crusade and a lot of WotLK and beyond, with 2 or 3 characters depending on which characters they were.
I would always group characters by range above all else, so Warrior/Enhance Shaman/Rogue, or Mage/Hunter for example. At the time, I used KeyClone to mimic button presses over clients, and had macros set up for follow and assist on the number pad.
I think there was a time when KeyClone was flagged by Blizzard's anti-cheat, but I don;t think this is the case with the current version. Alternatives exist that are free and will work for sure, such as AutoHotKey, but this requires a bit more setup overall.
I kept up multiboxing and transferring characters up past when Recruit-a-Friend became a thing (I think maybe in Cataclysm?), when the benefits were even greater with the 15 minute teleport, 300% exp boost and the grantable levels, every pair of characters that I got to max level game me another 'free'.
I wonder if the existing Recruit-a-Friend will count for Classic as well? The benefits aren't quite as pronounced, but a 50% exp boost in vanilla is huge, cutting days off your time to get to 60. This is a question that hasn't been asked so far as far as I'm aware...
I wonder if the existing Recruit-a-Friend will count for Classic as well? The benefits aren't quite as pronounced, but a 50% exp boost in vanilla is huge, cutting days off your time to get to 60. This is a question that hasn't been asked so far as far as I'm aware...
I do not think they will allow recruit a friend with 50% exp boost, that would simply be too powerful and everyone would do it
Perhaps you could recruit / refer a friend for something else?
I'm really hoping that boxing doesn't become a thing here.
If you go to EQ it's what they cater to and it ruins the game on every server with how it's done. They didn't allow a single person controlling multiple accounts using a single keyboard, you had to control every character. I really hope this stays the same and boxing isn't allowed.
If you go to EQ it's what they cater to and it ruins the game on every server with how it's done.
How does a person minding his own business and leveling up in peace ruin a game? I understand that people multiboxing on 40 accounts will have an impact considering world pvp, ganking and farming. But dual boxing for the sake of leveling and soloing should not have an effect on how other people play the game.
If you go to EQ it's what they cater to and it ruins the game on every server with how it's done.
How does a person minding his own business and leveling up in peace ruin a game? I understand that people multiboxing on 40 accounts will have an impact considering world pvp, ganking and farming. But dual boxing for the sake of leveling and soloing should not have an effect on how other people play the game.
I think the issue was that in Vanilla far more so than subsequent expansions you could engineer builds that were meant to destroy another character within the space of a single global cooldown.
This is bad enough when you get ToEP/PoM/Pyro'd for 3.7k when you only have 2.9k hp once, but that's a niche-ish case due to requiring to raid to get ToEP so it's not likely on 2 characters. The PoM/Pyro bit though is possible by any Mage, and you don't need good gear for 2x of these to be an instant kill no matter the opponent. Any more than 2 is overkill but imagine being able to press 2 buttons and take out 2 characters at once because you have 4 accounts all multiboxed.
It's not just Mages that can do this either, start stacking enhancement Shaman and you are more likely that a Windfury proc will occur, or stack Night Elf Hunters for shadowmelded Aimed Shots. If people are minding their own business then it's not a problem, but lots of people would go out of their way to grief.
I'm actually not averse to multiboxing, I plan on doing it and consider it a fact of life, but I'm also going to play on a PvE server where I can't get ganked, so your mileage may vary.
I don't agree with the belief that multiboxing wasn't feasible in 2005... the software existed and the graphics/processing power too.
I honestly think I am more nostalgic about those Altoid Tangerine Sours in that picture...
If you go to EQ it's what they cater to and it ruins the game on every server with how it's done.
How does a person minding his own business and leveling up in peace ruin a game? I understand that people multiboxing on 40 accounts will have an impact considering world pvp, ganking and farming. But dual boxing for the sake of leveling and soloing should not have an effect on how other people play the game.
Go to to Kharanos right now and do the quest where you have to get Gears off the Troll Scavengers. That mob is limited and if the newbie area is busy and you can't tag the mob, you got a wait to complete that quest that blocks your progress to the next area.
Now imagine the whole game like that with a single person controlling a Mage burn team that just runs through mobs before you can tag anything to just get some experience. That's just a group.
Imagine it a Raid.
I'm not saying all boxers are bad but this is what you get when you start allowing it. You also get a crazy economy as they farm dungeons over and over for items that they sell and control the AH market, ruining the economy.
Boxing is not a good system to allow in an MMO.
LIDC is some good software, they got their start giving away their software for free on Feenix. Software I used to great effect.
ISBoxer is the only other multiboxing software I know off the top of my head.
I doubt I will multibox in classic, as it costs a lot of money, where is on pservers it's free to make accounts in most cases. I imagine we will see a fare number of multiboxers in classic. Though I suspect we will have more on Horde side. As 5 shamans while not as powerful as it was in BC is still quite good due to being able to cover so many buffs. 5 Paladins can be ok, but I don't think it's as good
If you go to EQ it's what they cater to and it ruins the game on every server with how it's done.
How does a person minding his own business and leveling up in peace ruin a game? I understand that people multiboxing on 40 accounts will have an impact considering world pvp, ganking and farming. But dual boxing for the sake of leveling and soloing should not have an effect on how other people play the game.
Now imagine the whole game like that with a single person controlling a Mage burn team that just runs through mobs before you can tag anything to just get some experience. That's just a group.
Imagine it a Raid.
I'm not saying all boxers are bad but this is what you get when you start allowing it. You also get a crazy economy as they farm dungeons over and over for items that they sell and control the AH market, ruining the economy.
Boxing is not a good system to allow in an MMO.
I totally agree that abusing any system is horrible. Yet dual boxing 2 characters for the fun of it should not impact either the market or the leveling experience of others. I have done it twice in retail without any problems or people getting angry at me. I simply minded my own business and leveled them up for the challenge that is dual boxing, not for gain or anything… However in Classic it would probably be both for challenge and gain, considering I would have 2 60s to help myself on.