You guys really don't understand why this is interesting to people? Or is it just satisfying to be able to say to others "Pfft, why should I care, he has zero effect on me whatsoever?!" and turn your nose up. It's pretty fucking obvious why this is an interesting story, lol.
People care for the same reason that people rubberneck in traffic when there's a 3 car pile-up. I don't think anyone is pulling out their violin over this, it's just simply interesting news. The fact that someone who accomplished something so great and got taken on by the biggest team threw it all away over a fucking MC staff is insane and cringetopia all in one.
Shit's hilarious.
But, if you read on Reddit "MrRandomGuy ninjad this item on last raid" or "jokerd ninjad this item last raid" there should be no difference. Instead everybody talks about one, and nobody.cares about the other.. that's what's baffles me.
What I mean is I dont understand why people find this interesting ONLY if it happens to a famous person.
Not necessarily that we care but it is just a shitty situation. Not only did he ninja loot but then continued to harass other players. Which i believe was why he was kicked.
Just really confused about why so many people talk about this when it happens so many times, on all servers, all times. He didn't ninjaloot thunderfury..
I could get that there are people that spend time on his stream, maybe even gave him money, only to find out he did something they considered morally wrong. I can get that those people are interested in the situation and understandably angry. But why so many people have to express they indignation only because it happened to a famous person?
It's like being happy because Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie got married. You happy for that? good for you! i just dont get it.
Sorry :(
I can get that those people are interested in the situation and understandably angry. But why so many people have to express they indignation only because it happened to a famous person?
Its not about him, or any other streamer that steps out of line, being famous, its about them being influencers. Streamers/influencers gain their revenue by entertaining masses; its a job like any other, and as with any jobs you are bound to have certain responsibilities. For some, laws and regulations are in place to physically protect consumers, while for someone like me, i am bound by certain laws and regulations protecting people that I advice professionally within my field. Influencers are part of a recently emerging business model that lacks proper regulation, so you only have social norms and contractual obligations to go by.
Good influencing can be to simply entertain, or facilitate or explain topics within a specific field, most streamers entertain which is fine, others teach us lore or guide us through content, which is also fine. But you also have cases where you break social norms such as JokerD did; he ninja-looted and had quite negative rant, and from a consumer perspective then he broke the social rules of the game, and verbally assaulted his client base. If i did this in my work, i would be hurt financially, and be opened up to litigation. For JokerD, he naturally has to face repercussions himself.
Professional streamers perform a job, just like anyone else and considering their compensation levels, then I think its perfectly fair to demand certain standards, so if you cheat, exploit, break social norms, abuse or otherwise break the furthest limits of professional conduct, then yeah, there should be consequences.
If you ask me at least (and you didn't, I know)
No he was just a complete ass on stream about it. Direct quote below:
"Who do I think I am? Let me tell you who I am. I am world first level 60 in fucking classic wow. I can do whatever the fuck I want. You think I'm a random player? You think I'm a fucking random player? Let me fucking clue you in bitch. I am the the guy who had 350 fucking thousand viewers playing this fucking game. Me, not you. The most views ever on this game. The first guy to hit 60. I can do whatever the fuck I want."
That's a big oof
Who do I think I am? Let me tell you who I am. I am world first level 60 in fucking classic wow. I can do whatever the fuck I want. You think I'm a random player? You think I'm a fucking random player? Let me fucking clue you in bitch. I am the the guy who had 350 fucking thousand viewers playing this fucking game. Me, not you. The most views ever on this game. The first guy to hit 60. I can do whatever the fuck I want.
What a fucking loser.
Just really confused about why so many people talk about this when it happens so many times, on all servers, all times. He didn't ninjaloot thunderfury..
I could get that there are people that spend time on his stream, maybe even gave him money, only to find out he did something they considered morally wrong. I can get that those people are interested in the situation and understandably angry. But why so many people have to express they indignation only because it happened to a famous person?
It's like being happy because Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie got married. You happy for that? good for you! i just dont get it.
Sorry :(
It could have been anyone, he just did it in front of thousands. If I happened to be on someone's stream that had thousands of veiwers and then continued to ninja loot and harass others I would get slapped too. Ofc people are upset of the ninja looting but I believe most people had a problem with the harassing of others.
You guys really don't understand why this is interesting to people? Or is it just satisfying to be able to say to others "Pfft, why should I care, he has zero effect on me whatsoever?!" and turn your nose up. It's pretty fucking obvious why this is an interesting story, lol.
I mean.... yes. It's not that it's satisfying to say "I don't care". It's just that I don't care. I suppose even replying to this thread indicates that I do at some level, but really I would just like for you to understand that there really are a massive amount of people who really don't care about the actions of some stranger who has zero effect on me whatsoever.
You guys really don't understand why this is interesting to people? Or is it just satisfying to be able to say to others "Pfft, why should I care, he has zero effect on me whatsoever?!" and turn your nose up. It's pretty fucking obvious why this is an interesting story, lol.
I mean.... yes. It's not that it's satisfying to say "I don't care". It's just that I don't care. I suppose even replying to this thread indicates that I do at some level, but really I would just like for you to understand that there really are a massive amount of people who really don't care about the actions of some stranger who has zero effect on me whatsoever.
Yeah I hear where you're coming from. I understand why people WOULDN'T be interested or give a shit etc... I just found it shocking that people couldn't understand why it WOULD be interesting.
Yeah I hear where you're coming from. I understand why people WOULDN'T be interested or give a shit etc... I just found it shocking that people couldn't understand why it WOULD be interesting.
Okay that's fair. There are plenty of people (like my wife) who don't understand why I can find WoW interesting, and I consider them close-minded fools. Point taken lol.
Good, he sounds like a proper prick. Perfect example of why all the streamers need to be on an "exclusive streamer server" (i.e.: contained).
"But no, I want justice! This is outrageous!!! How could Jokerd destroy my image of him?!?! He was supposed to be better than this!!!
Stfuppercut No..this isn't my image of him, I could care less about him. It's his actions on the classic community, how they make us look.
"But no, I want justice! This is outrageous!!! How could Jokerd destroy my image of him?!?! He was supposed to be better than this!!!
@Stfuppercut No..this isn't my image of him, I could care less about him. It's his actions on the classic community, how they make us look.
Don't be so dramatic. The actions of one person in a community of millions only shapes your perception of the community if the emphasis of your perception is placed on streamers and streamer drama. Otherwise, you have your own friends list, your guild and your server which should be shaping your view of Classic. Do you play with Jokerd? Did you role on his server for the chance to play with him? Do you tune in every day to his stream? No? Then it doesnt matter. Yes? Than you have a very skewed version of what Classic is.
Well, his name is Joker, what do you expect?
No he was just a complete ass on stream about it. Direct quote below:
"Who do I think I am? Let me tell you who I am. I am world first level 60 in fucking classic wow. I can do whatever the fuck I want. You think I'm a random player? You think I'm a fucking random player? Let me fucking clue you in bitch. I am the the guy who had 350 fucking thousand viewers playing this fucking game. Me, not you. The most views ever on this game. The first guy to hit 60. I can do whatever the fuck I want."
is there a video of him saying this? Preferably one on Youtube or a stream with a timestamp