I don’t see any way of avoiding the queues really. This release might end up being a train wreck.
Which, i think we can all agree, is the authentic Vanilla experience.
Let's hope so! :lol:
I am having a hard time deciding if i should change to the less crowded server (Gehennas) My friends would probably join me, but we would have to find a new guild. I dont think the queues will be to bad come launch with all the layers, but when we get to phase 2 and they remove layers the queues wont be fast and could last hours. I dont have as much time as i did back in vanilla so i dont want to spend what ever time i have sitting in a queue.
I've moved to Gehennas due to the sole fact I want to play on release day and not be stuck in a que with mass crashing. Added bonus I actually got my name I wanted as well.
Shazzrah (EU) has received a similar message today, however the new pvp server, Gehennas, is already High.
I don’t see any way of avoiding the queues really. This release might end up being a train wreck.
Which, i think we can all agree, is the authentic Vanilla experience.
I think it's fair to say they should open up more :lol:
I am having a hard time deciding if i should change to the less crowded server (Gehennas) My friends would probably join me, but we would have to find a new guild. I dont think the queues will be to bad come launch with all the layers, but when we get to phase 2 and they remove layers the queues wont be fast and could last hours. I dont have as much time as i did back in vanilla so i dont want to spend what ever time i have sitting in a queue.
I've moved to Gehennas due to the sole fact I want to play on release day and not be stuck in a que with mass crashing. Added bonus I actually got my name I wanted as well.
Make no mistake come launch Gehennas will be just a crowded as so many players are waiting for the 26/27th to resub again.
I'm going to just relax and wait for the release. Probably it will be a mess no matter how many servers they add. But i know for sure -- it is going to be unforgettable experience :)
Right now, there's a LOT of chatter in Modern realms trade chat about Classic, and numerous people are saying things like "I know five people who plan on playing classic and only one of them has reserved their names" or "I know ten people who plan on playing classic and NONE of them have reserved their names". The existing name reservations alone have almost completely filled up the existing servers.
These people in trade chat might be totally full of crap, but Blizzard needs to consider the possibility that they have underestimated demand for this by a whole order of magnitude and launch day will be a shitshow the likes of which they've never seen. I'd expect at least a doubling in the number of available realms within the first week.
Im on a private server and will be leaving along with the most people on there to classic.
It's not blizzard's fault that people are being idiots and all piling onto Herod despite there being 3 other perfectly good East coast PvP realms. They should just randomly reassign half of all Herod characters to Stalagg.
Sure it is. The onus of population balance is not on the players shoulders. The servers should have soft caps on them so that this doesnt happen in the first place. Why can you continue to make characters on a full realm endlessly? Its dumb.
I guess this isn't the original Stfuppercut
It's not blizzard's fault that people are being idiots and all piling onto Herod despite there being 3 other perfectly good East coast PvP realms. They should just randomly reassign half of all Herod characters to Stalagg.
Sure it is. The onus of population balance is not on the players shoulders. The servers should have soft caps on them so that this doesnt happen in the first place. Why can you continue to make characters on a full realm endlessly? Its dumb.
It's a complex issue. You can't just put a hard cap in place.
What happens if they put a lock on Fairbanks today, no new players. Your buddy you used to play with back in the day wants to hop on and run with you. Too late, server's locked, he's shit out of luck?
I don't like that idea. Instead, Blizzard is putting up red flashing lights all over the place going 'get off the full realms you retards', but if people keep ignoring the 'this server is full you should REALLY consider a different one' warning then they'll get to sit their ass in line and wait. If enough people don't like the wait, they'll get the point and move. If enough guilds trying to race to the top get enough of their core members stuck in 10 hour queues, they'll figure it out and move.
Maybe blizzard should change the UI so in order to join full realms it'll make you type the words verbatim "I understand that this realm is full, I understand that I'm being retarded, and I also understand that I am probably also going to sit my ass in a 12 hour queue every single day. If I complain about this later on the forums then I acknowledge being a retard in advance." And they can only proceed to make a character on that realm after typing that into a box, perfectly typed word for word. If people still jump onto those realms after typing all that because they 'want to be where the fun is' because they think a medium pop server is going to be empty then it's on them :lol:
Yeah the situation sucks, but that's where we are at now. Blizzard obviously has population targets on each server based on how they think server decay will play out. I just hope their planning ends up working out in the long run.
Blizzard is putting up red flashing lights all over the place going 'get off the full realms you retards'
It's nice to know that SOMEONE has noticed my signature :)
Maybe blizzard should change the UI so in order to join full realms it'll make you type the words verbatim "I understand that this realm is full, I understand that I'm being retarded, and I also understand that I am probably also going to sit my ass in a 12 hour queue every single day. If I complain about this later on the forums then I acknowledge being a retard in advance." And they can only proceed to make a character on that realm after typing that into a box, perfectly typed word for word.
I agree with this idea 100%. In fact, I think Blizzard should hire you for this idea alone.
Sure it is. The onus of population balance is not on the players shoulders. The servers should have soft caps on them so that this doesnt happen in the first place. Why can you continue to make characters on a full realm endlessly? Its dumb.
It's a complex issue. You can't just put a hard cap in place.
What happens if they put a lock on Fairbanks today, no new players. Your buddy you used to play with back in the day wants to hop on and run with you. Too late, server's locked, he's shit out of luck?
Then you will be incentivized to change realms so that you can play with him. The alternative is that players will endlessly stack on a full realm and cause massive launch issues. Players being forced to change realms to accommodate their friends is actually EXCELLENT for server balance - we WANT THIS!
The 200 person guild that jumps on the "full realm" makes the situation worse. When that same guild gets cut off at 100 members, they will be forced to go to a lower pop realm and contribute to server balance. This is what we want.
I like the idea of a soft cap. Perhaps there could be lenience within this cap to accommodate additional players on the underpopulated faction etc or perhaps these soft caps could be relinquished as we get closer to launch or shortly after launch. The issue with allowing people to lock into a full realm is that they will be committed. The likelihood of a guild moving AFTER they have locked into a realm and see the wait queue of 5 hours, is unrealistic. If they opt to move, the guild will likely unravel and fall apart; its simply too late. Coordinating 100-200 people to reserve on a realm is challenging enough, trying to get them to reroll on launch day due to queue times, simply will not happen. The issue needs to be addressed before launch with server caps or it simply will not happen.
Yeah the situation sucks, but that's where we are at now. Blizzard obviously has population targets on each server based on how they think server decay will play out. I just hope their planning ends up working out in the long run.
And I am SOOOO damn curious what those numbers are... What is a server? What are their anticipated retention rates??? Ughhh - so curious.
What, exactly, is a "soft cap" in this context? Something akin to Pippina's "write this text verbatim" idea?
Stalagg has reached High population status.
Stalagg has reached High population status.
I know a lot of players in Herod who have created a character in Stalagg (myself included). My guess is that in such cases Blizzard is counting the player against the population of both servers. Many players will wait until launch day to make a decision based on the size of the queues.
Stalagg has reached High population status.
I know a lot of players in Herod who have created a character in Stalagg (myself included). My guess is that in such cases Blizzard is counting the player against the population of both servers. Many players will wait until launch day to make a decision based on the size of the queues.
Yep, that'll be the most telling of how populated a server is. I'm fully aware that the realm pop is based on number of created characters.