Raiding MC for months on end, man they're really going for the true Vanilla experience!
That's why I will PVP when I'm not farming my instruments of death. PVP isnt scripted nor repetitive. It's always a fresh fight for your life.
But that's me. (And probably @Cletus ) but I understand were a small minority.
He speaks for all of us!
Like for example what is written a couple of posts before this, an average player will take 10 days, and "even the most casual player who plays a few hours a night every so often will take around 12 weeks".
10 days amount to 240 hours. 12 weeks means 20 hours per week. That's essentially 3 hours per day, every single day of the week, for 3 months. How you can possibly call that "even the most casual player" completely baffles me as borderline delusional. There are people even in this very thread who talk about a few hours per week, that's a little ways off 20 hours..
Throwing arguments like "well those who don't put in that kinda time aren't gonna be raiding anyway so they don't count and shouldn't be considered" on top of that strikes me as the peak of arrogance to be honest.
You're right. I guess I should have wrote my post better. My point was that the release schedule primarily affects those who raid. As you said yourself, for those who will only be playing 2-3 hours per week, raiding likely isnt in the cards and the release cycle shouldn't matter to them anyhow. Most of these people will be lucky to crawl to 60 before Naxx releases regardless of the timeline. If we remove them from the conversation and refocus the conversation on the most casual raider to the most hardcore, playing 10-20 hours per week will be on the casual side of raiding. Using that demographic of players, the players who will raid and should actually have an impact on the outcome of the timeline, raiding MC for 5 months will still be likely for the casual raider and will still be bad for player retention. From the most casual raider, to the most hardcore, having a gigantic gap between phase 1-3 is bad for the health of the game.
Players who want to be retained would be better off sticking to retail?
Capturing the experience of original wow would require a slower pace of progression. Blizzard’s ability and willingness to respond to player desires wasn’t what it is today back then.
Players who want to be retained would be better off sticking to retail?
Capturing the experience of original wow would require a slower pace of progression. Blizzard’s ability and willingness to respond to player desires wasn’t what it is today back then.
Gatekeeping content with dailies and arbitrary barriers to increase the longevity of content is VERY retail. Slowing players down, despite the fact that they have the capacity to go further, is retail. Holding back the top 10% of the playerbase to appease the bottom 10% is retail.
Holding back the top 10% of the playerbase to appease the bottom 10% is retail.
I don't like retail either but that's just hyperbole and bad math. It's to appease the other 90% of the playerbase, just the top 10% is the whiniest.
Holding back the top 10% of the playerbase to appease the bottom 10% is retail.
I don't like retail either but that's just hyperbole and bad math. It's to appease the other 90% of the playerbase, just the top 10% is the whiniest.
Yes, that is literally hyperbole. That math is not accurate. That is an exaggerated claim, not meant to be taken literally, but rather to make a point.
12/10/19 Phase 2 coming true?
12/10/19 Phase 2 coming true?
Where did you find this date? I haven't heard a specific date announced anywhere.
It appears Phase 2 will come as soon as they end all layering. I'd reckon that it will come before the 12/10 date on here. Perhaps mid November.
I estimated a timeline based on the original content progression during vanilla. That’s how 12/10 came about.
Most plausible guess I heard was right after Blizzcon 2019, because they probably have nothing else to announce for classic.
I estimated a timeline based on the original content progression during vanilla. That’s how 12/10 came about.
Sorry, I thought I had missed an announcement or something. Was too busy playing in the other window and not paying enough attention here. I just re-read your original post and the data you put together and it's a great read.
I'd be happy with a 12/10 date for Phase 2. It could come a little bit sooner - we got plenty of guys on my server chomping at the bits right now to start collecting honor points and gear. But I think as long as it's not much later than 12/10 then it's probably okay. I got lots of friends still leveling right now and they're not prepared for the hell on earth that a PVP honor point system without battlegrounds is going to cause :lol:
What percent of the active player base do we think is level 55+ now?
What percent of the active player base do we think is level 55+ now?
My guild is pretty casual, with 5% of them being really active, already lv60.
I would say about 10% of my guild is above 55, which is the number I would go for total % of active player base.
1% - 2% being the BiS players and 5% with MC/Ony on farm.
This is my opinion, assumption from my server, LFG/Trade channels.
What percent of the active player base do we think is level 55+ now?
Hopefully, Blizz releases one of those fancy infographs that details this. Similar to what Nost did back in the day.
