I think they already had this on their minds before even starting to create classic.
I believe their intentions when upgrading the hardware and code to support the retail engine was to release TBC, WRATH, ...etc
Now they paved the way to create other expansions much easier and faster!
I also believe as soon as Classic is release they will start creating TBC!
I mean how awesome would it be when out of the blue after phase 6 that we see PR video on TBC, Hype!
I would love to see a release of TBC!
That was my favorite expansion/iteration of wow!
WHAT IF they recreate/re-release TBC but without a lot of the major changes. i.e Flying mounts. Imagine a Classic2 so to speak, new races, new balances. This will most likely not happen, but it's a cool idea.
This would also mean that they'd not raise the level cap...which makes most of the content on outland meaningless. Raising a level cap is a reset of the game. Keeping everything at 60 maintains a single flow of progression. Some people back in the day didn't like BC raising the level cap. But idk man, so much of Outland's content is leveling content.
Edit: Also very, very much in the Classic+ camp. Tiny class changes aimed at making bad specs viable, not really altering the high end scene but opening up options for casual players, and more 40 and 20 man raids. Sounds great to me.
A separate TBC server would be pretty cool, but I'd rather have a sort of Classic+. If anything, keep classic around itself.
The idea of TBC excites me, but so does a patch 1.13.
With TBC, we know what we are getting. We know what the game will be like and what comes with it. I definitely enjoyed TBC.
However, a patch 1.13 is a really interesting idea. A new experience in Classic, made in the spirit of Classic—that's what I like to believe at least. The question is whether we can trust Blizzard to make such a patch, and how far they will take it in terms of quality-of-life, because I would personally not want to see any.
Classic should be the base for an alternate reality!
I think it would be creative if they used Classic to create a new line of expansions - like an alternate reality. Think of this as a way for Blizzard to learn what they messed up on, in all of their expansions and use that to build upon Classic; creating new expansions that change Classic only for the better: ie hold back introducing flying mounts, make the spec system keep its Classic form (rather that than the garbage retail spec "tree"), and other major changes they rolled out with expansions in the previous years that totally messed up the core of the game we call Classic.
It would be so much fun to play Classic beyond level 60, through new expansions and content, but not have to experience the major changes we all know were crap from the retail line thus keeping much of the core fundamentals and "hardcore" aspects that made Classic better than any retail expansion.
My vote and hope is for Classic+
Q: What are the plans after Phase 6? More content for classic or moving to TBC?
A: We’ve done most of the hard work by bringing back 1.12 so progressing to Burning Crusade would be a lot easier for us. Our plan is to identify everything we need to do should we ever decide to go this route. We want to be sensitive to the desires of our players. Some may want BC and some may not. We’ll be following the Classic community closely to help determine what our next steps should be.
What do you guys think about this answer?
I really hope that if they go down the route of re-releasing TBC and WotLK that they do it on separate servers where you can copy your character, otherwise we'll just be in the same situation 10 years down the line where people are asking for Classic servers again!
It's also kinda funny that Classic isn't even released yet and people are asking what's coming next. :lol:
With ya on that one. Not gonna hang around if I have to play the game with any expansions. Those were the beginning of the end the first time around and I hope Blizz won't allow themselves to be doomed to repeat their same mistakes.
WHAT IF they recreate/re-release TBC but without a lot of the major changes. i.e Flying mounts. Imagine a Classic2 so to speak, new races, new balances. This will most likely not happen, but it's a cool idea.
I actually think this is the route their are thinking when they speak about TBC in Classic. They have mentioned several times when speaking about this about the classic philosophy and how TBC would fit in it. TBC without flying mounts is imposible because the expansion was created around the concept. They could develop TBC without the huge leap on gear and money, without dailies, with some relevant progresos around proffessions, without the huge immbalance around world pvp. Maybe classic + is just trying to fix the wrongs made in the past while staying true to the original concept.
Polling the community as with OSRS would be a nice way to find out what we want
Agree that copying and/or transferring your character to a separate TBC server would make the most sense. That way classic lovers can stay in classic WoW and TBC lovers can play on the TBC server.
Agree that copying and/or transferring your character to a separate TBC server would make the most sense. That way classic lovers can stay in classic WoW and TBC lovers can play on the TBC server.
This topic is a really hard one.. even Blizzard is clueless what to do next. They depend on the community's thoughts.. but we're not sure either.
Horns of Dilemma or like the Turkish saying; Staff with shit for both ends.
Chamouador's ideas are sublime!
GO CLASSIC +
TBC destroys Classic's legacy with flying. Sorry, but I don't want the horde scum flying over me while going to whichever hellhole they're going to. They should be on feet where they'll taste my sword.
They have the chance to turn Classic (+) into the best game of this century.
I’d absolutely love to see TBC and WoTLK servers! If they do it on separate servers without interfering with classic or anything then it’s totally ok. I even want Cataclysm and MoP servers (But those would be unpopular) eventually, perhaps 3-5 years down the road. I started in WoD, so I’d love to see even later expansions despite how unpopular they might be.
My ideal world is progressive release of seperate TBC and WOTLK servers. Nothing else needed after that imo. End it with the holy trinity of wow.
Q: What are the plans after Phase 6? More content for classic or moving to TBC?
A: We’ve done most of the hard work by bringing back 1.12 so progressing to Burning Crusade would be a lot easier for us. Our plan is to identify everything we need to do should we ever decide to go this route. We want to be sensitive to the desires of our players. Some may want BC and some may not. We’ll be following the Classic community closely to help determine what our next steps should be.its practically guaranteed to be separate servers
What do you guys think about this answer?
I really hope that if they go down the route of re-releasing TBC and WotLK that they do it on separate servers where you can copy your character, otherwise we'll just be in the same situation 10 years down the line where people are asking for Classic servers again!
It's also kinda funny that Classic isn't even released yet and people are asking what's coming next. :lol:
My ideal world is progressive release of seperate TBC and WOTLK servers. Nothing else needed after that imo. End it with the holy trinity of wow.
Im sorry but its not a holy trinity.
Bc followed in the design of classic wow.
But wrath did not. Wrath was the beginning of modern wow. Not the end of the old.
I'll support most reasonable variations of classic+. I kinda worry about ones that borrow TBC content, but I'd be more interested in, instead of using TBC content and tooling it for level 60, to actually use the OG, prototype of Outland and the Hellfire Citadel. There is some old chatter and scribblings by Blizzard that the Dark Portal was going to be open to Outland during Vanilla, but if you've seen the videos, it's different from TBC Outland.
I'd be down for that.
Of course this reworked/re-prototyped Outland would also be cool to see in the game along with: Grim Batol, Uldum (raid was the original intent, not a zone), Dragon Isles, some way to use the Hyjal zone, and then one of the earlier versions of Karazhan that got scrapped.
For Hyjal, maybe a world boss, rare spawns, and stuff. An extra rep and quest hub, like a prototype of Quel'Danas island, or just a less bad version of Silithus content.
Of these, Grim Batol and Kara could be 20 man raids, providing for a full 20 man raid progression path for a small guild.
But if we have to use TBC content, I'm in favor of keeping the level cap at 60 and the entire game being centered on a single progression path. Might see about re-tooling the Outland content in the world as people won't need to level. But there's so many TBC instances, I don't know how you'd manage the gear without just totally obliterating the existing vanilla gear, or at least obsoleting a lot of it.
And I'm less jazzed about the prospect of TBC servers. I feel like its a super safe, but boring option. If we only ever have this opportunity once, we might as well try out Classic+ content. If BC is so safe, and way easier for the devs to do, then that can be the fall-back plan.