Why do you think I post all these topics?
Considering that you have failed to convince anybody into agreeing with any of these ideas yet push on regardless, I'm just going to assume you're shitposting to farm post count. Kind of like I am :lol:
Blizzard tried to improve World PvP after they introduced BGs. The Silithus and EPL PvP objectives were examples of that. They failed terribly. I have been making suggestions that will improve the state of World PvP once battlegrounds are released. I still do not see the downside of having two honor system??
Why would you suggest it for the Classic WoW? The idea is to recreate the vanilla WoW from back in the day. I think you might have better luck at retail WoW official forums.
That is nostalgia talking. Take off the goggles. When battlegrounds came out, World PvP went into the dustbin pretty much. It will likely even more the casw in Classic.
Naw! I call it competitiveness!
You may PvP to seek stats and gear and shiny new objects!
I seek PvP to be better than my opponent, rewards are nice and all, but I want to be the best not care if i suck or not!
Kinda like sports, I dont play just for the trophy, I play to beat my opponent and be good at what I do!
Get that nostalgia shit out of here!
I don't play like that...if i see some dick rogue out in the world that ganked me, you bet your ass Im gonna go get him!
Nostalgia my ass! If i see that rank 14 shadow priest running around stirring shit up, I want a piece of that and try and take him down...
Why do you think I post all these topics?
Considering that you have failed to convince anybody into agreeing with any of these ideas yet push on regardless, I'm just going to assume you're shitposting to farm post count. Kind of like I am :lol:
Blizzard tried to improve World PvP after they introduced BGs. The Silithus and EPL PvP objectives were examples of that. They failed terribly. I have been making suggestions that will improve the state of World PvP once battlegrounds are released. I still do not see the downside of having two honor system??
Why would you suggest it for the Classic WoW? The idea is to recreate the vanilla WoW from back in the day. I think you might have better luck at retail WoW official forums.
Because there were many versions of Classic WoW. There was a version of Classic WoW where ranking in World PvP was the only way. We will get that in Phase 2. The issue is that it is temporary. Battlegrounds will be the only way to rank up once Phase 3 hits, and I think it is a mistake to remove World PvP ranking. The best solution is to just have 2 systems, so players can rank up doing either one.
Why would you suggest it for the Classic WoW? The idea is to recreate the vanilla WoW from back in the day. I think you might have better luck at retail WoW official forums.
You mean a recreation of a 15 year old game designed to be done without any changes from the original experience shouldn't be completely different and change all the time? :lol:
Because there were many versions of Classic WoW. There was a version of Classic WoW where ranking in World PvP was the only way. We will get that in Phase 2. The issue is that it is temporary. Battlegrounds will be the only way to rank up once Phase 3 hits, and I think it is a mistake to remove World PvP ranking. The best solution is to just have 2 systems, so players can rank up doing either one.
But it's not a recreation of that particular Classic WoW. It's a recreation of the vanilla AND the changes that followed in a similar order. These changes included Battlegrounds. To me it just makes no sense suggesting changes to a recreation of a game from 2004.
Why would you suggest it for the Classic WoW? The idea is to recreate the vanilla WoW from back in the day. I think you might have better luck at retail WoW official forums.
You mean a recreation of a 15 year old game designed to be done without any changes from the original experience shouldn't be completely different and change all the time? :lol:
Yeah I just made the same point :D
Why would you suggest it for the Classic WoW? The idea is to recreate the vanilla WoW from back in the day. I think you might have better luck at retail WoW official forums.
You mean a recreation of a 15 year old game designed to be done without any changes from the original experience shouldn't be completely different and change all the time? :lol:
What original experience? Most of Vanilla had serverwide BGs. Part of Vanilla had honor ranking through World PvP. Crossrealm was not even added until right before TBC. Did you know Vanilla actually had Arenas?
The point is there are many versions of Vanilla WoW. I understand that we are getting 1.12, but that does not mean it is the best version for everyone. I am suggesting a change that would make World PvP matter like it did in early Vanilla.
What original experience? Most of Vanilla had serverwide BGs. Part of Vanilla had honor ranking through World PvP. Crossrealm was not even added until right before TBC. Did you Vanilla actually had Arenas? They were added in a final patch before TBC.
I sure didn't see air drops, bounty PvP nodes or separate parallel honor systems inside contested territory back in 2005. In fact I seem to remember a lot of battlegrounds.
The last few days pre patch 2.0 doesn't count. We're not getting arenas.
I understand that we are getting 1.12, but that does not mean it is the best version for everyone.
This isn't a lunch buffet, you don't get to pick the dinner plate. You get the same version of 1.12 as the rest of us.
Blizzard's idea of World PvP is that in the beginning you level in your starting zones and then suddenly there are zones where players from the opposite faction can level too. So you have to fight for your survival and ability to actually do quests and level up your char. That's the reward!
I will say this... I have added Gnoll on my discord and chatted with him, and while he is clearly out of touch with the game, he is not trolling. This man is 100% serious. So we can put the idea that hes just trolling to rest... If anyone wants to double down and recheck that theory, add him on discord yourselves.
I don't think he's trolling either. I don't like his ideas on adding crap to the game, but I don't think he's trolling.
Rank14/High Warlord system is and should stay as is. We aren't redesigning raids...
The grind of classic, whatever it may have been for is WHY we've been asking for it to get re-released. Not re-designed.
RedridgeGnoll I know you are looking to change Classic WoW, so I thought I would help provide some info on what Classic WoW is for most people.
If you visit the official Blizzard page for Classic WoW (here) you will see the following:
As you can see, the intention of this project is to recreate the old original World of Warcraft experience as it was. No one is looking to change it, no one is looking to add to it. Blizzard are recreating original World of Warcraft - they are not making WoW 2 or Classic+. I hope this helps you understand why some of the responses here and in your other threads may come across as quite abrupt. People have been waiting a long time for Classic, not Classic+ Ashran Edition.
@RedridgeGnoll I know you are looking to change Classic WoW, so I thought I would help provide some info on what Classic WoW is for most people.
If you visit the official Blizzard page for Classic WoW (here) you will see the following:
As you can see, the intention of this project is to recreate the old original World of Warcraft experience as it was. No one is looking to change it, no one is looking to add to it. Blizzard are recreating original World of Warcraft - they are not making WoW 2 or Classic+. I hope this helps you understand why some of the responses here and in your other threads may come across as quite abrupt. People have been waiting a long time for Classic, not Classic+ Ashran Edition.
Read the fine print: World of Warcraft Classic is a faithful recreation of the original World of Warcraft—it runs a bit smoother on today’s computers, but the game still looks and feels like you’re playing World of Warcraft from 2006.
The game was released in 2004. There were many version of Classic. The version we are getting only existed for a few months.
Read the fine print: World of Warcraft Classic is a faithful recreation of the original World of Warcraft—it runs a bit smoother on today’s computers, but the game still looks and feels like you’re playing World of Warcraft from 2006.
The game was released in 2004. There were many version of Classic. The version we are getting only existed for a few months.
And yet none of those versions contained any of the ideas you pitched. Its a stupid idea, just because you only want to do something when a reward is attached to it doesn't mean its a good idea to attach a reward to it. Try to view other peoples point of views.