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Time for a new adventure?
Welcome back, adventurer. I am known as Chronormu, but you may call me Chromie. I am comfortable with such familiarity.
I am one of the bronze dragonflight, forever attuned to the ebb and flow of time. You could say that we have met before. Or is this the first time we've met?
I'm in so many places and times right now, I sometimes have a hard time keeping track of all of it!
I recently came across two oddly shaped discombobulators. They both allow one-way travel through time!
If you like, I can show it to you.
A Curious Discombobulator allows a level 60 character in a World of Warcraft Classic server to transfer to a World of Warcraft Burning Crusade server.
This is a one time, one way transfer. Characters who are transferred to a Burning Crusade server will not be allowed
to go back to the Classic servers under any circumstances. Your character will get to keep all equipped items and gold,
as well what is in their bags. Bank contents will NOT be carried over.
A Curious Discombobulator is available for purchase from Chronormu for 500 gold.
Going forward, you will be able to create characters directly in a Burning Crusade server 2 months after its initial release.
A Tempered Discombobulator allows a level 60 character in a World of Warcraft Classic server to transfer to a World of Warcraft Classic+ server. Classic+ servers will be updated with new content; raids, items, battleground and more! Characters who are transferred to a Classic+ server will not be allowed to go back to the Classic servers under any circumstances. Your character will get to keep all equipped items and gold, as well what is in their bags. You can opt to transfer the bank contents as well, although this will remove all bank items from the original Classic servers.
You can obtain a Tempered Discombobulator via a new, repeatable quest chain.
You will need the following reputation levels and items to be able to progress the quest chain;
Reward: 5 x Tempered Discombobulator
As the quest chain is repeatable, and Tempered Discombobulators are not soulbound, players will be able to trade these to their friends, or sell them in exchange for gold. Players will NOT be able to create a character directly in Classic+ servers, and can only transfer from existing Classic servers by using a Tempered Discombobulator.
The long and difficult quest chain with a steep time investment requirement is intended. This gives the guilds who have cleared all PvE content something to work for, and as the quest reward is 5 Tempered Discombobulators, players can set and work in teams.
The Classic+ content will have the following:
Classic+ Stage 1
Classic+ Stage 2
Classic+ Stage 3
...and many more!
/end pointless fan-ideas... :smile:
This is more or less the result of me being bored at work, but I also hope to continue the discussion of "Classic going forward".
There are cons and pros of having a "forever classic" server. Pros being namely that people are not rushed to the end-game and can take many months or years to clear PvE content. The cons would be that the more hardcore players would get bored after Xth Naxx clear. So with an optional server transfer to the Burning Crusade expansion, one can still keep their treasured character and play BC.
In addition, the "Classic+" would be everything that Blizz perhaps once intended to release (Emeral Dream, Hyjal zone, Karazhan areas etc.), but couldn't or didn't due to various reasons. This "Classic+" is then intended for the most hardcore of the hardcore. It would be also not possible to create a character outright in these realms, but the Tempered Discombobulators are not soulbound so in theory they could be bought. The non-soulbound item from a repeatable quest also creates a new "endgame economy" for some really hardcore dedicated people; you can stay in "Classic" and farm & sell these items forever if you so desire. The quest chain rewarding 5 of these is also intended, so you can share these with a close group of 4 other friends and venture in the "Classic+" content together - starting from the new 5 man dungeon.
All in all, I'm sure there are lots of errors or dangers in this proposal, and also Blizzard can do a lot more better than I can. Even though this is still a "we'll cross that bridge once we come there" situation, I find it fun to think about these things.
How do you guys think?
It'd be cool if at the top you say this is fan-made. Using a "blue quote" on something not said by Blizzard without any forewarning doesn't sit well with me.
Fair enough.
My heart can not take those false ads ;)
I mean we all know that to some point TBC will come and i hope that the copy the realms so we can still play with our lvl 60 chars.
I'm curious to see what will happen after all the content phases have passed. But to me it seems unlikely they'll do something like this.
It's a good read though, I wonder what they'll have to do to make Karazhan a 40-man raid instance.
I mean we all know that to some point TBC will come and i hope that the copy the realms so we can still play with our lvl 60 chars.
Simply put that's the idea really, with a little bit of in-game lore sprinkled. It doesn't force anyone to take part in TBC, so you can move to those realms when/if you choose. Unless something unexpected happens, I really think Blizzard will eventually add TBC/Wotlk servers ultimately.
I'm curious to see what will happen after all the content phases have passed. But to me it seems unlikely they'll do something like this.
It's a good read though, I wonder what they'll have to do to make Karazhan a 40-man raid instance.
Yeah the "Classic+" approach is a bit... too adventurous for the current Blizz if I'm honest. But I mean Runescape is doing it (if what I've read so far is accurate), and they seem to be doing great over there. More people are playing OSRS, and it is still getting content updates. At the end of the day many people wouldn't support an official Vanilla server back in the days (There was even a copy-paste "Why Vanilla WoW will never happen" response by the green posters on official forums - Edit: It's called "THE WALL OF NO") and look at where we are now! So I wouldn't shut the door to a possible "Classic WoW but with content patches" way ;)
Now whether Blizz would split the Classic servers from Classic+, that's another thing. That's gonna be depending on how everyone feels and how many people will be still playing Classic in 2-3-4 years.
No Veteran will transfer his character when he get lost on the classic server. Tbh. why would I transfer my T3 priest to Burning Crusade to crush all my progress?
I probably would start fresh and let my old character stay there.
Im using classic just as classic TBC waiting room.
So I hope for TBC down the road. :)
Awesome work here - I really liked the bit with chromie and the reputations - it all seemed incredibly blizz like! You definitely have a knack for emulating the way they announce things haha!
That said, I am very much opposed to Classic+ and also to BC stuff. We haven’t even got Classic yet!
Problem I see going into the future with the BC stuff? Massively spread out population and huge gaps in servers where people have moved on to their new home.
Problem with Classic+ ? It’s new stuff, which means it isn’t Classic and shouldn’t be anywhere NEAR this game. It also takes away the ceiling and ruins all the hard work people will have made defeating Naxx and well.. completing the game. Who wants to achieve something great like that then have all their gear and effort invalidated by some karazhan remake patch? Not me.
No Veteran will transfer his character when he get lost on the classic server. Tbh. why would I transfer my T3 priest to Burning Crusade to crush all my progress?
That's a good point I hadn't considered.
Would "copying" a character to a TBC server work then, do you think (as a one-time only thing so people can't abuse it)? Perhaps as a limited-time offer?
Awesome work here - I really liked the bit with chromie and the reputations - it all seemed incredibly blizz like! You definitely have a knack for emulating the way they announce things haha!
Why thank you :P
Problem I see going into the future with the BC stuff? Massively spread out population and huge gaps in servers where people have moved on to their new home.
Yes the whole "splitting the community" could be a disaster, it could not even be feasible if the player count is not that high by the "end of Classic" - whatever that "end" might be. So if in X years we get a TBC server, it would probably run along Classic servers and not as a "character transfer" option. Having top guilds/players transfer to TBC could leave Classic servers deserted (of course this depends whether or not people would actually do this). I guess it's a double-edged sword.
Problem with Classic+ ? It’s new stuff, which means it isn’t Classic and shouldn’t be anywhere NEAR this game.
Again the Classic+ stuff would be parallel to the Classic servers. You could go to Classic+ and check it out of you want, but you can also choose to stay in Classic where all your hardwork is not invalidated with new content. In the imaginary setting that I've created myself, I would probably stay in Classic because I want to gradually get updates at my own pace and not worry about new content.
That being said, perhaps new content should not automatically mean better gear. Maybe different gear but on the same power level as Naxx. Or cosmetic only rewards, etc.
PS: Oh no the Blizz quote was removed from my OP :biggrin: It was fun while it lasted tho, I understand teebs decision :p
That's a good point I hadn't considered.
Would "copying" a character to a TBC server work then, do you think (as a one-time only thing so people can't abuse it)? Perhaps as a limited-time offer?
Well, I'd like it if you could just take your character and copy it to a TBC server once. But it stays on the old one. But you can only do this ONCE per character.
That's how this kind of changes in game should be handled: not with some external transaction, but via in game events/quests. Like at the time, when they planned Death Knight, you had to sacrifice on of your characters at level 70 and, after a long chain, having it transformed in DK.
Great ides, I would love a Classic+ :-)
I really hope Blizzard ends up going the OSRS route with community voting for new content and features. In OSRS, 75% of the subscribed community has to agree to said new stuff in order for it to be implemented.
One of my worries with making TBC/Classic+ stuff and not forcing everyone to it is that Classic/TBC/Classic+ will eventually thin out. However, forcing people to go to a new expansion even if they don't want to also sucks, but you can't always please everyone, and that's going to become true as ever some time down during the Classic timeline.
Great effort!
Nice idea but I'm afraid Classic+ servers would be ghost towns if I understood your post well.