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Caperfin
(@caperfin)
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34 but im rigorously testing stuff along the way.

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 10:20 am
(@isomena)
Posts: 38
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Population cap is 15k atm, how they gonna get rid of that many players on full realms when layering is gone? We will see

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:55 am
(@zacheous)
Posts: 151
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I've had to switch from a lock to a hunter and I just got him started. Hughesnet works but lag can get bad enough my lock spells don't cast fast enough to save my butt in a bad situation, and being a squishy, that just doesn't work. The hunter is doing better in that aspect so far so I'll see how it goes.

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:25 pm
(@black-monarch)
Posts: 409
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I was so frustrated to have to leave Arugal, but I understood why my friends made the switch, and I wanted the experience of Classic WoW with my friends, so I had to move. Fuck blizzard for not making 2 PvP servers earlier.

The realm situation was a dumpster fire. Blizzard absolutely handled that wrong. It backfired on them and served more to break up communities than keep them together. They were very public about wanting to ensure that servers were full, and they sure got that. But they did this by making people switch servers 2/3/4 times. You can't expect people to stay together with that much forced churn. I headed into classic with a group chat going on with all of my real life buddies and we were all looking forward to playing together.

Well, fast forward a couple of weeks - guilds moved servers, friends of friends moved servers, people followed blizzards orders and switched servers, people got sick of 8,000 player queues. Only a couple of my friends are left on Fairbanks. The rest of them are scattered across a couple different servers. Thanks Blizzard, your server rollout went to plan and broke up guilds and groups of friends in the process.

> Here's the servers, start making plans
> They're all full, cancel your plans and move to this new one
> The new server is full, cancel your new plans and move to this newer server we just made
> The newer server is full, cancel your newer new plans and move to this new newer server we just made
> That one is full now too and the good news is this is going exactly how we planned it. Pack your friends and move to this other new newer server

I'm making new friends in game as I go. That's nice, but me and my real life buddies are scattered all over the place and we're all too invested in our characters and servers now to move. And that really sucks. I'm still really enjoying classic and classic is everything I wanted it to be besides that. But it really sucks that I'm basically playing alone due to Blizzard's dumpster fire style server planning.

My experience so far has been:

- create 3 characters on Atiesh as soon as I was allowed to
- stay there
- stay there
- Oh, we're now allowed 10 characters per server and 50 total? Create new characters on new servers just in case
- Don't use any of those other characters because Atiesh doesn't have queues

Pacific time zone PvE master race :)

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 7:53 pm
(@pippina)
Posts: 1045
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Population cap is 15k atm

Where did you get this number?

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 8:37 pm
(@uncle-ganus-mcanus)
Posts: 176
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Population cap is 15k atm

Where did you get this number?

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 9:50 pm
(@pippina)
Posts: 1045
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Population cap is 15k atm

Where did you get this number?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know what the fuck to do with this other than save it and cherish it.

 
Posted : 06/09/2019 10:06 pm
(@midoo)
Posts: 41
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My leveling pace is pretty terrible, only 27

Increased leveling rate private servers spoiled me really bad, now I get bored pretty quickly

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 4:57 pm
(@evenanthedruid)
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Had to reroll from lvl 25 so I stayed up all night catching up, got up to lvl 15 on my first day, so not so bad ^^.

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 5:07 pm
(@stfuppercut)
Posts: 1228
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https://imgur.com/gallery/6fqLYRh

First night in PUG MC only about 6 pulls in! Going well. Probably just a rep farm / trash run but we'll see! Some of the raid is not 60 and not a full group. Tons of guys wearing SM gear. One ret pally with https://classic.wowhead.com/item=7723/mograines-might . hahaha

UPDATE: 3 bosses down. Turns out Classic is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY easier than private. Way easier. Way. Way. Way. Easier. Still going - no wipes. Most notably Flame Imps. They dont matter. We accidentally chain pulled imps 2 times, and it was negligible. I'm not sure if their dmg was too high on private or their HP, but they are so inconsequential in Classic. Accidentally pulled 4 giants, also negligible.

UPDATE 2: Skipped Garr and wiped right before baron with a bad pull. Everyone is SO upbeat. The guys are incredibly pumped to be raiding again haha! So much fun! I've never seen so many happy dudes during a wipe. Noticing the pulls are very different than private... The way mobs path and which mobs chain and which dont. Definitely causing us some grief. Having low level guys in here doesnt help, but hoping we can get a few more kills.

UPDATE 3: Baron dead and he dropped a https://classic.wowhead.com/item=18564/bindings-of-the-windseeker , grats Rush - human warrior Fairbanks! World first??? I havent been following drops.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/d16352/fairbanks_na_alliance_first_mc_pug_binding_drop/

UPDATE 4: We were at Shazz...We needed repairs and were debating if we should dry run it before getting repairs... Decided to go for it. Tanks messed up. Lost 1/2 the raid instantly. The other 15-20 guys killed Shazz with relative ease. Not a single person in raid has full pre BiS. Not one melee has dal'rends set. No one in this raid has done UBRS yet. None. So far my reflection is that pservers were off... WAY off... But not in the way a lot of people insinuated. Private was WAY harder than this. I dont want to give an arbitrary percentile, but at this point I would say this is at least 30-40% easier based on my own anecdotal experience.

UPDATE 5: Someone in our group was streaming and the horde found our layer and wiped half of us on the way back to raid after repairs! Its almost like layering doesnt exist! But it does... So we will either win or we will just split the raid, switch layers and wiggle a few guys past them and then reform and summon. No need for layer cowardice, we won. Back to the raid!

-intermission, in an effort to bring more people we are waiting for a handful of guys to be ran thru BRD lava jump for quick MC attunes-

UPDATE 6: Harbringer dead, all bosses 1 shot. 2 full wipes to trash.

UPDATE 7: Golemagg dead, and his debuff wasnt stacking? We stayed in the whole fight. It only stacked to 1 or 2 and would slowly wear off. None of the melee had to go in or out for the whole fight. This may be less accurate than private? Meh, beats me but its less fun thats for sure! Still my fave game of all time tho!

UPDATE 8: Died on Garr! Congrats Garr, youre still relevant!!! Also our communication sucked. But youre still relevant Garr. Our first boss death with this rag tag team of SM geared lowbies. Hah.

2nd death to Garr. One offtank wearing https://classic.wowhead.com/item=3785/keen-axe and https://classic.wowhead.com/item=13081/skullance-shield for Garr adds.

3rd attempt we swapped it up, 1 warrior per add. No more DPS warriors =( . Your boy tanked with a https://classic.wowhead.com/item=3990/crested-buckler as a level 59 warrior semi-successfully... ....... Bahahaha. Garr died, and unfortunately we never arranged for douses because this was only supposed to be a trash farm run with lowbies. And so ended our PUG MC trash run composed of 8 different guilds, a handful of lowbies and a handful of empty raid spots.

Summary
Overall I am underwhelmed. The game needs a good tuning. People shouldn't be tanking in grey items and SM gear and clearing MC. This is not authentic. Whether the values are accurate or not, the experience is far from vanilla. Disappointed. To cap off the night I hit 60! Mixed feelings about the whole day and big questions for the game... Was this really how it was? I can imagine that my time on private has likely skewed my expectations but some of these mechanics seem to be entirely missing. This is not how I remember vanilla, but it may just be my memory.

In quiet contemplation I shake my head in disappointment at the #nochangers... I had said the game needed to be tuned up since the moment it was announced. Yet all of that productive discourse was smothered by adolescent screeches "no changes, no changes". Well, this is the hand we were dealt. Still my favorite game of all time, just the raid finder version.

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 7:10 pm
 Jax
(@jax)
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So happy to have him!

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 9:47 pm
(@vlostek)
Posts: 88
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Stfuppercut that’s unbelievable. I raided in vanilla and remember wiping on all those. 4 golem pulls. 2 imp group pulls.

Something smells fishy here. Not sure if pservers were the ones off or if Blizz accidentally made the raids a cakewalk.

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 10:12 pm
(@stfuppercut)
Posts: 1228
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@Stfuppercut that’s unbelievable. I raided in vanilla and remember wiping on all those. 4 golem pulls. 2 imp group pulls.

Something smells fishy here. Not sure if pservers were the ones off or if Blizz accidentally made the raids a cakewalk.

Main tank wearing scarlet chest and a bunch of random level 40 blues. All dps warriors except one wearing SM helmet. I've never seen so many carrot on a sticks. To be clear, no one on this raid team has done UBRS. Not once. I cant express how poorly geared this group is.

 
Posted : 07/09/2019 10:16 pm
(@gallow)
Posts: 291
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Gallow has hit 32 yesterday! Execute rank 2 does wonders in PvP. I'm sure https://classic.wowhead.com/item=6975/whirlwind-axe plays a huge role in this, but I was 2-3 shotting clothies all night long yesterday.

I started SM runs, mainly to get the full Scarlet set. One of my major goals is to get a full set + scarlet tabard. It is in my mind THE MOST iconic set for Vanilla (mainly because I didn't play shaman/warrior during vanilla, and I was always so jelous how amazing their gear looked compared to my silly cloth gear). I don't even care if I have to sacrifice getting my mount a tad later, I need those set pieces!

I also reached just shy of 20~ gold. At this rate I may have around 50-60 gold by the time I reach 40... or maybe not. I still don't like the rare undead mount looks tho. I may grind for a wolf instead. An undead on a wolf (or maybe a raptor...) looks so daunting to me. In my mind anyone who is that badass is a force to be reckoned with! Mainly because Forsaken is the only race that starts with Neutral rep with other Horde factions instead of Friendly.

So I will be doing some SM runs till I reach 40 or even beyond that, they are quick and relatively easy. None of those melee cleave aoe farm bullshit, just the regular good ol tank and spank. I'll also do some STV around level 35, and visit Alterac Mountains / Arathi Highlands. Some good quests there!

I'm still loving Classic so far. Haven't even started doing Blackrock areas yet - which are easily my favorite dungeons of all time! Can't wait.

 
Posted : 09/09/2019 7:01 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
Posts: 969
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I would say this is at least 30-40% easier based on my own anecdotal experience.

This was what both of us suggested before launch. Buff raids mobs health and damage by 20-30% and see how it goes. They didn't. We're 1.12 patch characters in 1.2 content.

Grats on 60 and your successful MC pug, sounds like a lot of fun, and almost certainly much too easy! Get any loot?

 
Posted : 09/09/2019 11:27 pm
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